I concur. Almost every downtown in America has been thinned out during the 
automobile age. Buildings that burned down were not replaced and many more 
were torn down specifically to accommodate parking. Redeveloping these 
missing teeth would go a long way to restoring the density once present. 
Doing so will require revising the regulations that dictate suburban 
development even in the cities by requiring parking and setbacks for yards, 
alongside unnecessarily large minimum lot sizes. Throw in height limits for 
good measure.

I think one of the most encouraging developments in recent years is the 
renewed popularity of city properties. 30 years ago much of Ithaca was 
poorly-maintained rental housing. It has been a wonderful improvement to 
the quality of the urban environment to have many of the beautiful older 
houses restored to their original condition. More and more of these houses 
are owner-occupied, and with that has come an increasing intolerance for 
crime and uncivil behavior. Grumble if you want about the loss of freedom, 
but the result is an increasingly pleasant environment in which to live -- 
creating a positive feedback encouraging infill and new development.

There are downsides, of course. Affordability dropped as quality improved. 
The poor will eventually end up in the suburbs, as they do in Europe, 
unless subsidies of one sort or another are used to allow them to remain. 
We have such subsidies, of course, but the demand greatly exceeds the 
supply and that is likely to intensify rather than abate.

To what extent does it make sense to redevelop to increase density? There 
is a lot of embodied energy in existing buildings, not to mention their 
importance to a sense of where we have come from. Not all old buildings 
were quality structures when they were built, and some that were have 
suffered serious deterioration due to neglect or structural or design 
deficiencies. With strong demand in place the potential now exists for 
replacing deteriorated housing with quality new construction that would add 
to the urban environment instead of detract from it.

Joel

At 12:44 PM 5/8/08 -0400, you wrote:
>
>
>A good way to get started on increasing density is with in-fill projects  and
>redevelopment of low-density, one-story retail into 3-4 story mixed use
>buildings.  There are many opportunities to do this on State Street 
>for  example.
>But we need to combine this will changing zoning and building  codes to allow
>this type of development.  Then we need to connect that to  changing the
>parking requirements for buildings.  If we had good public  transit 
>available, we
>could build apartments over retail/commercial spaces and  more fully utilize
>the land for people and urban permaculture instead of parking  lots.  Connect
>Ithaca's vision is for exactly this kind of  redevelopment.  And that is why
>they are hosting the international podcar  conference here in Ithaca in
>September.  We need a more user-friendly  public transit system in order 
>to attract
>people into downtown life without a  car.  We also need land use policy that
>makes it difficult to add to rural  sprawl.  Don't follow the Lansing 
>model of
>growth!
>
>Gay
>
>
>In a message dated 5/8/2008 9:38:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>Andy  Goodell wrote:
> > ...
> > Short of everyone renting out their space  to more people or subdividing
>their land to allow for more density, how do you  envision increasing density
>being any better?
>I think these matters really  would be a good first order of business, if
>we're to look for a way out of  this mess. The situation is serious
>enough to warrant a reexamination of  all the premises of our current
>culture. What, exactly, would be wrong  with everyone renting out their
>space to more people? Or subdividing land?  As for how increased density
>would be any better, George has sketched  enough of it to get my attention.
>
>
> > The towns and cities have  been built, and they could have been built
>better, but I don't see an easy way  to change that now.
>
>Probably there is a way to change it now -- are we  actually waiting for
>an *easy* way to do it? But even without changing  what's built, at least
>we could stop building more of the  same.
>
>Andrejs
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