It's still possible to buy half-gallon glass canning jars. I've bought them 
online, and I think that I saw some at AC Moore in the craft department. I miss 
my gallon glass pickle jars.
Pegi> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:43:59 -0500> To: 
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change: aseptic packaging> > I have pondering this issue for years. For most of 
the last 30 years, we > have bought dry milk and mixed it as needed, using old 
glass half-gallon > juice bottles (remember when juices came in glass 
bottles?). I'm down to > only 3 left, and they seem to be irreplaceable. The 
other problem is the > caps, which wear out eventually and can't be replaced 
either. So we have > supplemented the supply with plastic bottles that resemble 
the glass ones, > but are harder to get clean. Dry milk tastes better if mixed 
a day or more > ahead and refrigerated. When traveling, something we do once or 
twice a > year, we mix it up just before use, mixing only what we will 
immediately > consume. It works, but isn't as good.> > Lately we have been 
purchasing fluid milk when we are in town. In t
 he last > year dry milk prices rose to match, and now exceed, fluid milk 
prices. I > don't like generating the plastic bottles, even if they are 
recyclable. > Doesn't Byrne Dairy still use reusable glass bottles?> > Our 
refrigerator is used primarily for fresh food storage. It supplements > the 
cold storage room in the winter and substitutes for it once the weather > is 
too warm for cold storage (generally April through October). While we > process 
most of our fresh vegetables for year-round consumption, the > refrigerator 
gives us a place to accumulate enough to make the processing > efficient. 
Asparagus, beans, summer squash, and cucumbers are all kept in > the fridge to 
retain quality and retard spoilage. Ditto for fruit for fresh > consumption. 
You can't store raspberries at room temperature for more than > a few hours. 
While all these products could be processed in small batches > as they are 
picked, that isn't very efficient in time or energy, and it > doesn't work for
  the products that are only consumed fresh (like cucumbers > and summer 
squash). So, while we could probably make do if necessary, for > reasons of 
convenience and nutritional superiority, we refrigerate.> > Joel> > At 05:30 PM 
12/25/08 -0500, you wrote:> >At 01:37 PM 12/25/2008, you wrote, in part:> > 
>Take milk for example. Much of the rest of the world uses aseptic> > 
>packaging technology for packaging milk. As a result milk can sit> > >on the 
shelf in a tropical environment for up to six months without> > 
>refridgeration. It is also available in small enough packaging that> > >it can 
be consumed in a day or less, thus elimination the need for> > >home 
refridgeration after the package is opened.> >> >Dear George and Friends--Yes, 
this is a good thing in a way in terms> >of many populations receiving a higher 
nutrient level, and especially> >a blessing in many underdeveloped countries. 
However, there is a> >serious problem with Tetra, the patent holder and 
manufacturer of
  the> >world's aseptic packaging, and recycling in some areas. Aseptic> 
>packages can be completely recycled into fiber (paper), aluminum> >(foil) and 
plastic (the coatings, caps), less the adhesives, but in> >many (most?) areas 
of the world these packages go to the landfill> >instead. This represents a 
tremendous quantity of resources and> >embodied energy going down the tubes. In 
some states, like Brazil,> >the governments threatened to ban Tetra products 
unless Tetra agreed> >to recycle their products. So they did. Maybe they are 
doing a lot> >more now globally, but I suspect that most still go to the 
landfill> >or, even worse, the incinerator. I haven't seen any lifecycle cost> 
>analysises, but I suspect that it is less expensive, less energy> >intensive 
and less GHG producing to supply refrigeration, with> >adequate product life as 
Joel pointed out, than is to supply the> >needed quantity of Teta packs on a 
global basis. Jus' my $.02. Tom> >> >P.S.: If almond milk, rice
  milk, dairy products, etc., came in> >reusable glass containers we would be 
waaayyy ahead in terms of> >energy, GHG emissions and resources, even with the 
cost of> >transporting and cleaning the glass containers. It's the "throw> 
>away" mentality that promotes wastage and abuse of resources, energy> >and the 
rapidly deteriorating environment.> >> 
>******************************************> >Tom Shelley> >118 E. Court St.> 
>Ithaca, NY 14850> >607 342-0864> >[email protected]> 
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>Compost Educator and Sustainability Scion> >> >Buy products in glass, not 
plastic! Recycle all of your glass bottles.> >> >The percentage of PET recycled 
is declining.> >> >PET Recycling Rages Graph> >> >Source: National Association 
for PET Container Resources, American> >Plastics Council> >Note: 39% of plastic 
recycled in 2003 was PET.> >_________________________________
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