Hi Tom,

I know that locally Thor Oechsner, a local organic grain farmer, has developed strong relationships with some of his neighbors in Newfield who also grow grains. According to his interview in the Ithaca Times, at least one of his neighbors has started farming organically after checking out his system and seeing how well it works for him.

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19312987&BRD=1395&PAG=461&dept_id=546876&rfi=6

I think the number one issue in starting a dialogue is having a common ground (i.e. farming for a living). As a non-farmer if you go up to a farmer and tell them to stop using "Round up and the like on everything in sight" that's pretty much the end of the conversation right there. Why should they listen to you? You've demonized them already for being 'conventional', you're making assumptions about their political views, and you're criticizing them from way outside of the agriculture world with little to no knowledge of the challenges their business faces on a day to day basis. As a consumer, if you want to support particular agricultural practices, I recommend voting with your fork.

If you want to get involved locally as a citizen, zoning is a huge issue right now for any farmer. Thor is facing the loss of many acres of his leased land to new housing developments which could greatly impact the long term sustainability of his business. [http://flakes1.wordpress.com/category/newfield/]

I spend quite a bit of time thinking about this topic and am minoring in Adult and Extension Education at Cornell for my PhD. From what I've seen and read about, the most successful initiatives to implement sustainable agriculture practices happen when a diverse group of growers get together and say "how are we going to solve problem X"? Sometimes there are researchers involved in this process, but not always. The Practical Farmers of Iowa is a great example. [http://www.practicalfarmers.org/] They don't criticize their neighbors, instead they hold field days and say "Hey look at the amazing progress we've made figuring out how to do no-till agriculture organically (etc.)" These efforts are solution based, and bring folks together around a common problem (weeds, fertility, soil health etc.). My friend Jennifer Gardner who's studying nitrogen "leakiness" in the midwest told me her team has found that Iowa on a state level has significantly lowered the amount of excess nitrogen they contribute to the Mississippi River through transitions to organic farming and practices such as rotations and cover cropping. So this movement is having a huge impact. I also recommend this book on the movement:

Bell, M.M., Farming for Us All: Practical Agriculture and the Cultivation of Sustainability. 2004, University Park, PA: Penn State Press. 296.

Even when a farmer does decide to transition, its an arduous process. The USDA Integrated Organic Program (funded in part due to the lobbying efforts of a grassroots grower NGO the Organic Farming Research Foundation) funds research on transitioning from conventional to organic and programs to help farmers make the leap to new practices. Strange things happen during the three year transition process. Seed banks that have been built up for decades but controlled by herbicides have a field day (literally). I've read a lot about disease problems related to soil being depleted of organic matter and lacking disease suppressive microorganisms. For example, Benitez et al. 2007 found that growing vegetables during the three years of organic transition led to high levels of root diseases in the fourth (officially certified organic) year. Whereas growing hay for three years, then switching back to vegetables led to low levels of root disease in the fourth year because it built up some organic matter in the soil. Taking a field out of vegetables for three years while it "recovers" when your income relies on selling vegetables is a big deal. So bottom line is we're (growers and researchers) still all trying to figure out how to have a minimally painful transition for those that have decided to do it.

One of the big issues in transitioning to organic is building a readily accessible knowledge base of techniques that growers have figured out. Of course as Karl mentioned, much of this in industrialized nations is a "re-learning" process because things that have already been figured out over thousands of years of agriculture, have been rapidly forgotten over the last 50 years. Organic management can be daunting and requires incredibly complex crop rotations. Anu Rangarajan at Cornell told me about part of the NEON project (NorthEast Organic Network) where they locked a bunch of organic farmers in a house for a few days and synthesized their combined knowledge on crop rotations into a format that any farmer could use and learn from. OK, they didn't lock them in, but it was a challenging process! Now someone who's considering transitioning can learn from their combined many years of experience and expertise. Seriously, check this document out. The complexity and beauty of these rotations will blow your mind!

[http://www.neon.cornell.edu/croprotation/DACUMcroprotation.pdf]

I think that facilitating a dialogue between "conventional" and "organic" and/or "sustainable" growers is one of the most challenging issues facing this field. So much of the organic advocacy and activism is "preaching to the choir" or incredibly divisive. So Tom you've pointed out a serious issue on the regional and global scale, but in my opinion telling someone that you don't like how they're farming is not a viable way to start a dialogue.

-Allison

Other regional groups doing farmer to farmer education:

New York Certified Organic (no website) Run by Klaas & Mary Howell Martens in Penn Yan [http://attra.ncat.org/interviews/martens.html]


Benitez, M.-S., F.B. Tustas, D. Rotenberg, M.D. Kleinhenz, J. Cardina, D. Stinner, S.A. Miller, and B.B. McSpadden Gardener, Multiple statistical approaches of community fingerprint data reveal bacterial populations associated with general disease suppression arising from the application of different organic field management strategies. Soil Biology & Biochemistry, 2007. 39(9): p. 2289-2301.

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Dear Friends--By conventional farming I mean the use of lots of
chemicals--herbicides, pesticides, synthetic fertilizers, etc.  Hows
does one go about talking to a conventional farmer to get them to
begin to think about a becoming an organic farmer?  Or at least to
not use Round Up and the like on everything in sight?  Can anyone
point me to Web sites, articles or other resources that would be
useful to start such a dialogue?   I realize this could be difficult
because died-in-the-wool conventional farmers tend to be generically
conservative and securely locked into the mind set of chemical  use,
thinking that this is actually a good thing.   Any pointers would be
greatly appreciated.  Thanks.   Tom


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Allison L H Jack
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Department of Plant Pathology and Plant-Microbe Biology
http://pppmb.cals.cornell.edu
Cornell University
335 Plant Science
Ithaca, NY 14850
607.273.5762
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