On Tue, 24 Jul 2012, David Schultz wrote:

On Wed, Jul 04, 2012, Doug Barton wrote:
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On 07/04/2012 13:32, Andrey Chernov wrote:
1) /dev/urandom may not exist in jails/sandboxes

That would be a pretty serious configuration error.

Yes -- but the scary part is that arc4random() is not fail-safe at all. If /dev/random isn't there, you just silently get predictable "randomness". If you needed that randomness for cryptographic purposes you're out of luck; you might as well have used rot13. Using the sysctl doesn't fix the failure mode (in fact, as I recall the sysctl dubiously never reports failure even if there is no entropy), but there's a narrower set of circumstances under which the sysctl can fail.

Probably the most important thing for us to do is to make it clear which sources of randomness are appropriate for use in cryptography, and then propagate information to the downstream APIs as needed. Given its chequered past, it's clear that srandomdev() on FreeBSD is not appropriate for use in generating keys -- programmers should prefer the OpenSSL APIs. Currently, programmers are directed to arc4random(3) by random(3), but I'm actually not sure that is the right advice. I'm of the (possibly debateable) view that no randomness initialisation routine that can't return a failure is appropriate for cryptographic purposes -- if generating a key and /dev/random can't be found, or only the kernel arc4random bits are available but they aren't known to be good for key generation, then key generation should fail.

Robert
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