On Mar 5, 2015, at 10:21, Hans Ottevanger <h...@beastielabs.net> wrote:

> On 03/05/15 13:21, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 02:48:29PM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 10:01:45PM +0000, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>>> B> Author: bapt
>>> B> Date: Wed Mar  4 22:01:44 2015
>>> B> New Revision: 279603
>>> B> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/279603
>>> B>
>>> B> Log:
>>> B>   r* commands are not precious anymore
>>> B>
>>> B> Modified:
>>> B>   head/bin/rcp/Makefile
>>> B>   head/usr.bin/rlogin/Makefile
>>> 
>>> I guess when they are going to be not precious enough to be removed? :)
>>> 
>>> In modern world of ssh and https, does any OS require them in base?
>> 
>> yes.
>> Some telecom equipment require rlogin.
>> _______________________________________________
> 
> Considering that the r-commands are not particularly large and also not 
> really a maintenance nightmare, a would just keep them. They are (still) more 
> or less part of the standard Unix toolbox, as perceived by end-users, and you 
> had better not make life too difficult for them. The same is true for telnet.
> 
> I see these tools in use regularly, e.g. to control measurement equipment 
> programmatically. Due to the price tag of those instruments, that won't 
> change overnight. The usage is limited to a LAN however, nobody I know uses 
> these tools over the public Internet anymore.
> 
> As far as I know only OpenBSD got rid of these tools up to now. Most other 
> Unix(-like) systems still have them.
> 
> And if they absolutely have to go, what happens to the corresponding daemons 
> in /usr/libexec (rshd and rlogind)?

Why not just move them to ports so the people that need them can have them…?

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