@Express Install - Google is your friend

@Proper Testing - Them's the breaks when you are trying to test specific
(and real) use cases. I recommend you get yourself a virtual machine image
(Virtaul Box is a great free product) and take snapshots with various
version of browsers / plugins installed. This way you can test actual
conditions.

As Mike said, an iDevice is a good way to test NO flash player. After
reading up on ExpressINstall you may still want to test for the
auto-upgrade use case too.

BTW - using the uninstaller only takes <1 min  (as does reinstalling) so I
don't know what the resistance is about...


Aran


On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Christopher <[email protected]>wrote:

> What do you mean by express install ? The only way to verify if the
> alternative content is displaying is by completely removing Flash,
> their has got to be another way.
>
> On Dec 28, 10:45 am, Aran Rhee <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Disabled Flash = How?
> >
> > If you just disable the plugin via IE etc then this is not a valid test
> as
> > the version detection routine still returns the value of the plugin you
> > have installed. It will pass the test but then not be able to render the
> > content (as you have disabled it).
> >
> > You need to uninstall (using the Adobe uninstaller) (and optionally
> install
> > a lower version - if you want to test ExpressInstall etc).
> >
> > Aran
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Christopher <
> [email protected]>wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > This is the default code generated when using the generator.  I added
> > > the <p> tag with the text alternative content. When I disable flash
> > > the text "alternative content" doesn't appear ? I know it's not styled
> > > but I should see something, atleast.
> >
> > > <div>
> > >                        <object
> > > classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
> > > width="800" height="600" id="myFlashContent">
> > >                                <param name="movie"
> value="untitled.swf" />
> > >                                <!--[if !IE]>-->
> > >                                <object
> > > type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="untitled.swf"
> > > width="800" height="600">
> > >                                <!--<![endif]-->
> > >        <p>alternative content</p>
> > > <a href="http://www.adobe.com/go/getflashplayer";>
> > >                                                <img src="
> > >http://www.adobe.com/images/shared/download_buttons/
> > > get_flash_player.gif" alt="Get Adobe Flash player" />
> > >                                        </a>
> > >                                 <!--[if !IE]>-->
> > >                                </object>
> > >                                <!--<![endif]-->
> > >                        </object>
> > >                 </div>
> > >        </body>
> > > ================================================
> >
> > > On Dec 27, 6:29 pm, Aran Rhee <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Have  a (re)read of the documentation page:
> > >http://code.google.com/p/swfobject/wiki/documentation.
> >
> > > > You can see in this block of code where the alternative content
> should go
> > > > (it can be an image, text , or any combination of valid HTML). Note
> this
> > > is
> > > > for the static embed method. I assume this is what you require as you
> > > made
> > > > mention of conditional statements in your post:
> >
> > > > <object classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
> > > > width="780" height="420">
> > > >         <param name="movie" value="myContent.swf" />
> > > >         <!--[if !IE]>-->
> > > >         <object type="application/x-shockwave-flash"
> > > > data="myContent.swf" width="780" height="420">
> > > >         <!--<![endif]-->
> > > >           <p>Alternative content</p>
> > > >         <!--[if !IE]>-->
> > > >         </object>
> > > >         <!--<![endif]-->
> > > >       </object>
> >
> > > > I can also suggest to use the SWFObject code generator which helps
> ensure
> > > > your code is formatted correctly:
> > >http://code.google.com/p/swfobject/wiki/generator
> >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Aran
> >
> > > > On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Christopher <
> > > [email protected]>wrote:
> >
> > > > > If the user has flash disabled I want a image to replace where the
> > > > > flash would be, but I don't know where to add this in the HTML for
> > > > > SWFObject and the conditional statement ?
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