> On Aug 19, 2016, at 2:44 PM, Jim Ingham via swift-lldb-dev 
> <swift-lldb-...@swift.org> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Aug 19, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Daniel Dunbar via swift-lldb-dev 
>> <swift-lldb-...@swift.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 19, 2016, at 2:22 PM, Todd Fiala <todd.fi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> First off, I think the whole LLDB team can agree on the simple principle 
>>> that tests that sometimes fail is not something we’re shooting for, so 
>>> we’re on the same page with the general sentiment.
>>> 
>>> But, rather than talking in sweeping generalizations, let’s take this exact 
>>> failure as an example.  It was a socket attempting to connect.  It uses 
>>> general socket timeouts.  If it’s using a default, it will typically be 
>>> something like 30 seconds.  Per my previous comment, this is not something 
>>> we see fail with any kind of frequency. We just had a failure on it now.  
>>> Is the solution to say we want 35 seconds?  1 minute?  2 minutes?  We’re 
>>> using end-to-end testing here, and therefore we are subject to how a real 
>>> system behaves.  If we crank that up, there could be a time where we 
>>> overload the server further, and the socket facility just fails.  What do 
>>> you do then, claim the test as unworthy?
>>> 
>>> The challenge we run into on LLDB is that, while we do have a growing 
>>> number of unit tests that are strict input/output verification, far too 
>>> much of a functioning debugger’s operations are not covered adequately by 
>>> that.  So we have a large body of end to end tests.  Sometimes those fail 
>>> under heavy load.  Sometimes those issues are ours - we have hidden races 
>>> that are only exposed when the machine is grinding to a halt.  Sometimes it 
>>> is that the OS fails to handle requests for resources that the debugger 
>>> needs.
>>> 
>>> So it isn’t as simple as saying “file a bug to make the LLDB test suite 
>>> more reliable.”  (I wish it were!)
>> 
>> This is specifically why I proposed a concrete strategy like running a 
>> stress test of the test suite. That is actionable, and should shake some 
>> bugs I would hope?
>> 
>> Another actionable strategies (although one I'm not a big fan of) is enhance 
>> the test suite to automatically re-attempt flaky tests.
> 
> The test suite already does this.

But only for tests that are explicitly marked as flakey - which this test 
wasn't because - as Todd points out - it is not one of the usual known culprits

> 
> Jim
> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> On the positive side, we have more resources going into improving our 
>>> quality in the upcoming months, and we now have a dedicated quality 
>>> engineer working with us.  I expect this will help things as we move 
>>> forward.  And we’re looking to sink some of the system testing that 
>>> currently exists end-to-end in LLDB to a more input-output style testing 
>>> that we can do without needing the whole of LLDB (e.g. DWARF verification, 
>>> DWARF type round-tripping through the compiler, etc. - Greg and Sean can 
>>> speak more to what we’re doing there).
>> 
>> Great!
>> 
>> - Daniel
>> 
>>> 
>>> The net effect is that we should be hitting less of this noise.
>>> 
>>> -Todd
>>> On August 19, 2016 at 2:10:14 PM, Daniel Dunbar via swift-lldb-dev 
>>> (swift-lldb-...@swift.org) wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The amount of flakiness in the LLDB tests is disturbing... is there a 
>>>> high-level bug tracking improving this? It seems like it might be worth 
>>>> running a stress test of the tests on a loaded machine to try and shake 
>>>> out such problems.
>>>> 
>>>> - Daniel
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 19, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Todd Fiala via swift-lldb-dev 
>>>>> <swift-lldb-...@swift.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 19, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Enrico Granata <egran...@apple.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 19, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Todd Fiala via swift-lldb-dev 
>>>>>>> <swift-lldb-...@swift.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It looks like this may be the packaging build:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It was this build:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://ci.swift.org/job/oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10/1930/consoleFull#465392916fca400bf-2f4a-462e-b517-e058d770b2d7
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It has since gone blue.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don’t think I recall ever seeing that test fail before in an 
>>>>>>> intermittent way, but that might be what happened here.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Given the failure mode, it does sound likely:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.7/socket.py", line 206, in accept sock, addr
>>>>>> = self._sock.accept() timeout: timed out
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> If we see that again, we may be able to tweak the socket timeout to allow 
>>>>> for heavily loaded test CI.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Todd
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Aug 19, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Kate Stone via swift-lldb-dev 
>>>>>>>> <swift-lldb-...@swift.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Where is this failure being reported?  I’m not seeing anything on 
>>>>>>>> swift-3.0-branch or master on ci.swift.org.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Kate Stone k8st...@apple.com
>>>>>>>>  Xcode Low Level Tools
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 19, 2016, at 12:15 AM, mishal_shah via swift-lldb-dev 
>>>>>>>>> <swift-lldb-...@swift.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> + swift-lldb-dev group.  
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 18, 2016, at 9:47 PM, Daniel Dunbar <daniel_dun...@apple.com> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Failing in lldb:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Command invoked:
>>>>>>>>>> /home/buildnode/jenkins/workspace/oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10/lldb/test/dotest.py
>>>>>>>>>> --executable
>>>>>>>>>> /home/buildnode/jenkins/workspace/oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10/build/buildbot_linux/lldb-linux-x86_64/bin/lldb
>>>>>>>>>> --rerun-all-issues -C
>>>>>>>>>> /home/buildnode/jenkins/workspace/oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10/build/buildbot_linux/llvm-linux-x86_64/bin/clang
>>>>>>>>>> -s 2016-08-18-15_15_07 --results-port 41187 --inferior -p
>>>>>>>>>> TestStubReverseConnect.py
>>>>>>>>>> /home/buildnode/jenkins/workspace/oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10/lldb/packages/Python/lldbsuite/test
>>>>>>>>>> --event-add-entries worker_index=14:int Configuration: arch=x86_64
>>>>>>>>>> compiler=/home/buildnode/jenkins/workspace/oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10/build/buildbot_linux/llvm-linux-x86_64/bin/clang
>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> Collected 2 tests
>>>>>>>>>> ======================================================================
>>>>>>>>>> ERROR: test_reverse_connect_works_llgs
>>>>>>>>>> (TestStubReverseConnect.TestStubReverseConnect)
>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last): File
>>>>>>>>>> "/home/buildnode/jenkins/workspace/oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10/lldb/packages/Python/lldbsuite/test/decorators.py",
>>>>>>>>>> line 121, in wrapper func(*args, **kwargs) File
>>>>>>>>>> "/home/buildnode/jenkins/workspace/oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10/lldb/packages/Python/lldbsuite/test/decorators.py",
>>>>>>>>>> line 121, in wrapper func(*args, **kwargs) File
>>>>>>>>>> "/home/buildnode/jenkins/workspace/oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10/lldb/packages/Python/lldbsuite/test/tools/lldb-server/commandline/TestStubReverseConnect.py",
>>>>>>>>>> line 89, in test_reverse_connect_works_llgs
>>>>>>>>>> self.reverse_connect_works() File
>>>>>>>>>> "/home/buildnode/jenkins/workspace/oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10/lldb/packages/Python/lldbsuite/test/tools/lldb-server/commandline/TestStubReverseConnect.py",
>>>>>>>>>> line 67, in reverse_connect_works (stub_socket, address) =
>>>>>>>>>> self.listener_socket.accept() File "/usr/lib/python2.7/socket.py",
>>>>>>>>>> line 206, in accept sock, addr = self._sock.accept() timeout: timed
>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>> Config=x86_64-/home/buildnode/jenkins/workspace/oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10/build/buildbot_linux/llvm-linux-x86_64/bin/clang-3.9
>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> Ran 2 tests in 22.006s RESULT: FAILED (0 passes, 0 failures, 1
>>>>>>>>>> errors, 1 skipped, 0 expected failures, 0 unexpected successes)
>>>>>>>>>> Session logs for test failures/errors/unexpected successes can be
>>>>>>>>>> found in directory '2016-08-18-15_15_07'
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> [TestStubReverseConnect.py
>>>>>>>>>> FAILED]
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Command invoked: /usr/bin/python
>>>>>>>>>> /home/buildnode/jenkins/workspace/oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10/lldb/test/dotest.py
>>>>>>>>>> --executable
>>>>>>>>>> /home/buildnode/jenkins/workspace/oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10/build/buildbot_linux/lldb-linux-x86_64/bin/lldb
>>>>>>>>>> --rerun-all-issues -C
>>>>>>>>>> /home/buildnode/jenkins/workspace/oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10/build/buildbot_linux/llvm-linux-x86_64/bin/clang
>>>>>>>>>> -s 2016-08-18-15_15_07 --results-port 41187 --inferior -p
>>>>>>>>>> TestStubReverseConnect.py
>>>>>>>>>> /home/buildnode/jenkins/workspace/oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10/lldb/packages/Python/lldbsuite/test
>>>>>>>>>> --event-add-entries worker_index=14:int
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> - Daniel
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 18, 2016, at 9:18 PM, no-re...@swift.org wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> [FAILURE] oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10 [#1930]
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Build URL:  
>>>>>>>>>>> https://ci.swift.org/job/oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10/1930/
>>>>>>>>>>> Project:    oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10
>>>>>>>>>>> Date of build:      Thu, 18 Aug 2016 20:26:52 -0700
>>>>>>>>>>> Build duration:     51 min
>>>>>>>>>>> Identified problems:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>     • Regression test failed: This build failed because a 
>>>>>>>>>>> regression test in the test suite FAILed. Below is a list of all 
>>>>>>>>>>> errors:
>>>>>>>>>>>             • Indication 1
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Changes
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>     • Commit 2ebab526bfd7a5ce6ef460bebee0399fe669612d by xi_ge:
>>>>>>>>>>> [FixCode] Apply
>>>>>>>>>>> coercion fixits on return statement and initialization
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>             • edit: test/FixCode/fixits-apply-objc.swift
>>>>>>>>>>>             • edit: test/FixCode/fixits-apply-objc.swift.result
>>>>>>>>>>>             • edit: lib/Sema/CSDiag.cpp
>>>>>>>>>>>             • edit: test/FixCode/fixits-apply.swift.result
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>     • Commit 6447a2d16edcfbceab940d58a321b3ef70525f1a by 
>>>>>>>>>>> daniel_dunbar:
>>>>>>>>>>> [Basic] Update
>>>>>>>>>>> Thread shim to match changes on Linux side.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>             • edit: Sources/Basic/Thread.swift
>>>>>>>>>> 
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