I agree that 'private' still feels too subjective on its own. It's intuitively 'not public'; it's not intuitively the access term for 'declaration only'.
I'm not opposed to fileprivate and moduleprivate, if we like those terms. I'd just prefer a corresponding scopeprivate or declarationprivate. On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Brandon Knope via swift-evolution < swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote: > > > How about we continue this trend, and follow other existing Swift > keywords that merge two lowercase words (associatedtype, typealias, etc), > and use: > > > > public > > moduleprivate > > fileprivate > > private > > > > The advantages, as I see them are: > > 1) We keep public and private meaning the “right” and “obvious” things. > > 2) The declmodifiers “read” correctly. > > 3) The unusual ones (moduleprivate and fileprivate) don’t use the > awkward parenthesized keyword approach. > > 4) The unusual ones would be “googable”. > > 5) Support for named submodules could be “dropped in” by putting the > submodule name/path in parens: private(foo.bar.baz) or > moduleprivate(foo.bar). Putting an identifier in the parens is much more > natural than putting keywords in parens. > > > > What do you all think? > > > > -Chris > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > swift-evolution mailing list > > swift-evolution@swift.org > > https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution > > I'm not sure my wording will be perfect here, but I will try: I still > believe that private is implied in "module" and "file" and the problem is > in the name of the plain "private" keyword. > > You may say private is obvious, but when you have moduleprivate and > fileprivate, the natural question I ask is "What remaining kind of private > is there?" so private's obviousness is muddied for me when next to > moduleprivate and fileprivate. > > I will say I would prefer these keywords to the proposed parameter > keywords. I just think: > > file -> implies file only > module -> implies module only > > where adding private to them only adds noise (I.e. fileprivate and > moduleprivate) > > Brandon > _______________________________________________ > swift-evolution mailing list > swift-evolution@swift.org > https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution >
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