Yes, agreed, the fix for Chris’s brain-bender shouldn’t revisit any of 
SE-0155’s matching & labeling rules.

How about:

1. Disallow labels for bare tuples in patterns. (By “bare tuples” I mean “not 
representing associated values on an enum.”)

        let (a: x, b: y) = foo  // disallowed
        let (x, y) = foo  // OK

2. Maybe require “let” before individual identifiers when pattern matching on 
associated values, while preserving SE-0155’s rules for when labels may appear:

        case let .foo(a: x, b: y)  // disallowed
        case .foo(a: let x, b: let y)  // OK

#2 is debatable. It would solve an enum-based parallel to Chris’s original:

        case let .foo(a: Int, b: String)  // disallowed
        case .foo(a: let Int, b: let String)  // allowed, and Int/String no 
longer look like types

P

> On Jun 16, 2017, at 10:55 PM, Xiaodi Wu <xiaodi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> See:
> https://lists.swift.org/pipermail/swift-evolution/Week-of-Mon-20170417/035972.html
>  
> <https://lists.swift.org/pipermail/swift-evolution/Week-of-Mon-20170417/035972.html>
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 22:32 Paul Cantrell <cantr...@pobox.com 
> <mailto:cantr...@pobox.com>> wrote:
> Under these not-yet-implemented plans, if associated value labels are no 
> longer tuple labels, then how will pattern matching work? And what existing 
> pattern matching code will break / continue to work?
> 
> P
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2017, at 10:22 PM, Xiaodi Wu <xiaodi...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:xiaodi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Keep in mind that once the latest proposal about enum cases is implemented, 
>> these will be at least notionally no longer tuple labels but rather a 
>> sugared way of spelling part of the case name. The rules surrounding labels 
>> during case matching have only just been revised and approved and have not 
>> even yet been implemented. I don’t think it would be wise to fiddle with 
>> them again.
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 21:21 Paul Cantrell <cantr...@pobox.com 
>> <mailto:cantr...@pobox.com>> wrote:
>>> On Jun 16, 2017, at 5:23 PM, Mark Lacey <mark.la...@apple.com 
>>> <mailto:mark.la...@apple.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 16, 2017, at 2:09 PM, Paul Cantrell <cantr...@pobox.com 
>>>> <mailto:cantr...@pobox.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 16, 2017, at 3:43 PM, Mark Lacey <mark.la...@apple.com 
>>>>> <mailto:mark.la...@apple.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 16, 2017, at 1:21 PM, Mark Lacey <mark.la...@apple.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:mark.la...@apple.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 16, 2017, at 11:13 AM, Paul Cantrell via swift-evolution 
>>>>>>> <swift-evolution@swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 7:17 PM, Xiaodi Wu via swift-evolution 
>>>>>>>> <swift-evolution@swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 19:03 Víctor Pimentel <vpimen...@tuenti.com 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:vpimen...@tuenti.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 16 Jun 2017, at 01:55, Xiaodi Wu via swift-evolution 
>>>>>>>> <swift-evolution@swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 17:43 David Hart <da...@hartbit.com 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:da...@hartbit.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> By the way, I’m not attempting to deduce that nobody uses this 
>>>>>>>>> feature by the fact I didn’t know about it. But I think it’s one 
>>>>>>>>> interesting datapoint when comparing it to SE-0110.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> SE-0110, **in retrospect**, has had impacts on a lot of users; 
>>>>>>>>> prospectively, it was thought to be a minor change, even after review 
>>>>>>>>> and acceptance.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Keep in mind that this proposed change would also eliminate inline 
>>>>>>>>> tuple shuffle. For instance, the following code will cease to compile:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> let x = (a: 1.0, r: 0.5, g: 0.5, b: 0.5)
>>>>>>>>> func f(color: (r: Double, g: Double, b: Double, a: Double)) {
>>>>>>>>>   print(color)
>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>> f(color: x)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It is an open question how frequently this is used. But like implicit 
>>>>>>>>> tuple destructuring, it currently Just Works(TM) and users may not 
>>>>>>>>> realize they’re making use of the feature until it’s gone.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It's much much less used, by looking at open source projects I doubt 
>>>>>>>> that a significant portion of projects would have to change code 
>>>>>>>> because of this.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The reason that I’m urging caution is because, if I recall correctly, 
>>>>>>>> that is also what we said about SE-0110 on this list. Then, as now, we 
>>>>>>>> were discussing an issue with something left over from the Swift 1 
>>>>>>>> model of tuples. Then, as now, we believed that the feature in 
>>>>>>>> question was rarely used. Then, as now, we believed that removing that 
>>>>>>>> feature would improve consistency in the language, better both for the 
>>>>>>>> compiler and for users. Then, as now, leaving it in was thought to 
>>>>>>>> prevent moving forward with other features that could improve Swift.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Data:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I hacked up a regexp that will catch most uses of labeled tuples in 
>>>>>>> pattern matches, e.g. “let (foo: bar) = baz”. That’s what we’re talking 
>>>>>>> about, right?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That’s the obvious example that people find confusing.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Less obvious places that labeled tuple patterns show up are ‘case let’ 
>>>>>> and ‘case’ (see below). 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Okay, I should have looked at your regex and read further. It looks like 
>>>>> you were already trying to match these.
>>>> 
>>>> I did walk the grammar for all occurrences of _pattern_.
>>>> 
>>>> I’m only matching named tuple patterns that immediately follow one of the 
>>>> keywords which a pattern follows (for, case, let, var, and catch). As I 
>>>> mentioned, I’m not matching patterns that come later in comma-separated 
>>>> lists. I’m also not matching named tuples inside nested patterns, e.g. let 
>>>> ((a: b), (c: d)).
>>>> 
>>>> But again, if even the most basic form of this construct is so rare, I 
>>>> doubt more robust matching would turn up that much more usage.
>>>> 
>>>>> I’m surprised you’re not seeing any uses of ‘case’ with labels.
>>>> 
>>>> Me too. But I just verified that my pattern does match them.
>>> 
>>> Are you sure? It doesn’t look like it’s going to match the example I gave 
>>> due to the leading ‘.’ on the enum case.
>> 
>> Ah! I should have read your original message more carefully. You’re quite 
>> right, I only was checking case statements for raw tuples like this:
>> 
>>     case let (i: a, f: b):
>> 
>> …and not for anything involving associated values. I hadn’t even considered 
>> that associated values would be affected by this, but looking at the grammar 
>> it seems they would indeed be.
>> 
>> Another clumsy regex search, this time for patterns with tuple labels on 
>> associated values, turned up 111 results (one per ~3800 lines). Not super 
>> common, but certainly nothing to sneeze at. Here they are:
>> 
>>     https://gist.github.com/pcantrell/d32cdb5f7db6d6626e45e80011163efb 
>> <https://gist.github.com/pcantrell/d32cdb5f7db6d6626e45e80011163efb>
>> 
>> Looking through that gist, these usages mostly strike me as being just fine:
>> 
>>     case .cover(from: .bottom):
>> 
>>     case .reference(with: let ref):
>> 
>>     case .update(tableName: let tableName, columnNames: _):
>> 
>> I’d even say that removing the tuple labels would make things worse. 
>> Consider:
>> 
>>     case .name(last: let firstName, first: _):  // mistake is clear
>>     case .name(let firstName, _):               // mistake is buried
>> 
>> In Chris’s original brain-bending example, the confusion is that there’s no 
>> “let” after the colon, so Int and Float look like types instead of variable 
>> names:
>> 
>>     let (a : Int, b : Float) = foo()
>> 
>> However, in the examples in the gist above, most of the patterns either (1) 
>> declare variables using a `let` after the colon:
>> 
>>     case .reference(with: let ref):
>> 
>> …or (2) don’t declare a variable at all:
>> 
>>     case .string(format: .some(.uri)):
>> 
>> What if we allowed labels on associated values, but required a `let` after 
>> the colon to bind a variable?
>> 
>>     case let .a(b: c):  // disallowed
>>     case .a(b: let c):  // OK
>> 
>> Only 15 of those 111 run afoul of _that_ rule. Here they are:
>> 
>>     https://gist.github.com/pcantrell/9f61045d7d7c8d18eeec8ebbef6cd8f8 
>> <https://gist.github.com/pcantrell/9f61045d7d7c8d18eeec8ebbef6cd8f8>
>> 
>> That’s one breakage every ~28000 lines, which seems much more acceptable. 
>> The drawback is that you can’t declare variables for a bunch of associated 
>> value en masse anymore; you need one let per value. (See line 2 in that 
>> gist.)
>> 
>>> You might want to try the patch I sent as it will definitely catch any 
>>> tuple pattern that makes it to the verifier and does have labels.
>> 
>> I’m not set up to build the compiler, unfortunately. One of these days.
>> 
>> P
>> 
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> P
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Fortunately we do not appear to allow shuffling in these cases. I’m not 
>>>>>> sure if the human disambiguation is easier here because of the context 
>>>>>> (‘case let’ and ‘case’), but I don’t recall seeing complain about these 
>>>>>> being confusing (having said that it’s entirely possible they are very 
>>>>>> confusing the first time someone sees them, in particular ‘cast let’ and 
>>>>>> the binding form of ‘case’.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> enum X {
>>>>>>   case e(i: Int, f: Float)
>>>>>> }
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> let x = X.e(i: 7, f: 12)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> if case let X.e(i: hi, f: bye) = x {
>>>>>>   print("(i: \(hi), f: \(bye))")
>>>>>> }
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> func test(_ x: X, _ a: Int, _ b: Float) {
>>>>>>   switch x {
>>>>>>   case .e(i: a, f: b):
>>>>>>     print("match values")
>>>>>>   case .e(i: let _, f: let _):
>>>>>>     print("bind values")
>>>>>>   default:
>>>>>>     break
>>>>>>   }
>>>>>> }
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> test(X.e(i: 1, f: 2), 1, 2)
>>>>>> test(X.e(i: 1, f: 2), 3, 4)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I ran that against all 55 projects in swift-source-compat-suite, 
>>>>>>> comprising about over 400,000 lines of Swift code, and found … drumroll 
>>>>>>> … exactly one match:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> neota (swift-source-compat-suite)$ find project_cache -name '*.swift' 
>>>>>>> -print0 | xargs -0 pcregrep -M 
>>>>>>> '(for|case|let|var|catch)\s+\([a-zA-Z0-9_]+\s*:'
>>>>>>> project_cache/RxSwift/RxExample/RxExample-iOSTests/TestScheduler+MarbleTests.swift:
>>>>>>>                 let (time: _, events: events) = segments.reduce((time: 
>>>>>>> 0, events: [RecordedEvent]())) { state, event in
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Caveats about this method:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> • My regexp won’t match second and third patterns in a comma-separated 
>>>>>>> let or case, e.g.:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    let a = b, (c: d) = e
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> • It doesn’t match non-ascii identifiers.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> • This experiment only considers labeled tuples in pattern matches, 
>>>>>>> what I took Chris’s original puzzler to be about. Label-based tuple 
>>>>>>> shuffling is a separate question.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Still, even if it’s undercounting slightly, one breakage in half a 
>>>>>>> million lines of code should put to rest concerns about unexpected 
>>>>>>> widespread impact.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> (Anything else I’m missing?)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> • • •
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Aside for those who know the tools out there: what would it take to run 
>>>>>>> inspections like this against ASTs instead of using a regex? Could we 
>>>>>>> instrument the compiler as Brent suggested?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you want to catch *all* of these cases then the patch below will do 
>>>>>> it by failing the AST verifier when it hits a pattern with labels. If 
>>>>>> you only want to find the plain let-binding versions of this and not the 
>>>>>> ‘case let’ and ‘case’ ones, I’d suggest looking at the parser to see if 
>>>>>> there’s an easy place to instrument (I don’t know offhand).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> diff --git a/lib/AST/ASTVerifier.cpp b/lib/AST/ASTVerifier.cpp
>>>>>> index b59a7ade23..ba4b2a245d 100644
>>>>>> --- a/lib/AST/ASTVerifier.cpp
>>>>>> +++ b/lib/AST/ASTVerifier.cpp
>>>>>> @@ -2772,6 +2772,13 @@ public:
>>>>>>      }
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>      void verifyParsed(TuplePattern *TP) {
>>>>>> +      for (auto &elt : TP->getElements()) {
>>>>>> +        if (!elt.getLabel().empty()) {
>>>>>> +          Out << "Labeled tuple patterns are offensive!\n";
>>>>>> +          abort();
>>>>>> +        }
>>>>>> +      }
>>>>>> +
>>>>>>        PrettyStackTracePattern debugStack(Ctx, "verifying TuplePattern", 
>>>>>> TP);
>>>>>>        verifyParsedBase(TP);
>>>>>>      }
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Or can SourceKit / SourceKitten give a full AST? Or has anybody written 
>>>>>>> a Swift parser in Swift?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>> 
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