Ok, which differences?

-Chris

> On Nov 11, 2017, at 2:19 PM, Matthew Johnson via swift-evolution 
> <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Nov 11, 2017, at 11:40 AM, Chris Lattner <sa...@nondot.org> wrote:
>> 
>> On Nov 10, 2017, at 6:10 PM, Matthew Johnson via swift-evolution 
>> <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:
>>>>> On Nov 10, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Matthew Johnson via swift-evolution 
>>>>> <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> People have reasonably asked for the ability to make their own 
>>>>>>> function-like types in the past, such that "myvalue(...)" behaves like 
>>>>>>> sugar for "myvalue.call(...)" or something like that. In most cases, 
>>>>>>> they still want to have type system control over what arguments and 
>>>>>>> results their call operation produces. They don't really get that with 
>>>>>>> this proposal; they lose all control over the arity and argument types. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As I mentioned, this is directly addressed in the writeup. Here’s the 
>>>>>> link:
>>>>>> https://gist.github.com/lattner/a6257f425f55fe39fd6ac7a2354d693d#staticly-checking-for-exact-signatures
>>>>> 
>>>>> That discusses why you didn’t include it in the present proposal but I 
>>>>> think it’s reasonable to oppose adding a dynamic callable feature prior 
>>>>> to a more Swifty static callable.
>>>> 
>>>> Why?  One does not preclude the other.
>>> 
>>> For exactly the reason Joe articulates.  Some people will use what the 
>>> language offers to get the syntax they desire even if it sacrifices type 
>>> safety.  If we’re going to have first-class callable types in Swift (I 
>>> think it’s a great idea) type safety for native code should be prioritized 
>>> over syntactic convenience for dynamic language interop.  We can have both, 
>>> but the former should come first IMO.
>> 
>> Hi Matthew,
>> 
>> In point of fact, Swift already has the feature you are referring to.  It 
>> just spells it with square brackets instead of parentheses.  A simple change 
>> to the punctuation character has much less point than the proposal that I’m 
>> pitching.
> 
> This is true if you squint, but I imagine a design for callable types would 
> include some 
>  differences other than just punctuation.
> 
>> 
>> -Chris
>> 
>> 
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