Not everyone uses the IDE as a crutch for writing code. As someone who has used many languages, editors, and operating systems, I don't rely on autocomplete and sometimes turn it off because it gets in my way.
my experience with C# was sometimes frustrating because it could be hard to find the return type of a function, or the type of a "var" variable. Xcode's playgrounds, faster search, and "print(type(of:x))" provides a nicer experience. (you should try Resharper and C# to see what refactoring support should look like.) C. Keith Ray https://leanpub.com/wepntk <- buy my book? http://agilesolutionspace.blogspot.com/ twitter: @ckeithray http://www.thirdfoundationsw.com/keith_ray_resume_2014_long.pdf > On Dec 4, 2017, at 8:32 PM, Joe DeCapo <snoogan...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Dec 4, 2017, at 9:30 PM, Chris Lattner <clatt...@nondot.org> wrote: >> >> I personally am far more interested in getting to the bottom of Doug’s >> concerns - it isn’t clear to me what exactly his preferred direction >> actually is, but that discussion is based on engineering tradeoffs and may >> well lead to a change to the proposal or a complete change in direction. >> >> -Chris > > Some notes on one of Doug's points: > >> * Indexing/jump-to-definition/lookup documentation/generated interface won’t >> ever work. None of the IDE features supported by SourceKit will work, which >> will be a significant regression for users coming from a Python-capable IDE. > > Here's the state of the art in PyCharm in my personal Python project (no type > hints, but full comprehensive doc comments): > > <Screenshot 2017-12-04 22.11.22.png> > > <Screenshot 2017-12-04 22.11.47.png> > > <Screenshot 2017-12-04 22.12.05.png> > > PyCharm is able to get the trivial cases right, but anything more complex > than definitions and calls contained in a single file tend to end up looking > something like that. I don't see any way that Swift could improve on that, > and it's a foreign experience to anyone used to developing Swift code in > Xcode. >
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