This looks way better then Discourse. +1 from me.

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> On 17 Feb 2017, at 21:45, Jose Cheyo Jimenez via swift-users 
> <swift-users@swift.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ted, 
> 
> Today I learned about https://esdiscuss.org/ <https://esdiscuss.org/> which 
> is like an archiver viewer for disc...@mozilla.org 
> <mailto:disc...@mozilla.org> pipermail mailing list 
> 
> All their code is at  https://github.com/esdiscuss 
> <https://github.com/esdiscuss>
> 
> This still preserves pipermail as the one source of truth but it allows 
> better searching and visibility.
> 
> There is even a reply button which opens up a mail client presumably the 
> correct headers. 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
>> On Feb 9, 2017, at 5:18 PM, Ted Kremenek via swift-users 
>> <swift-users@swift.org <mailto:swift-users@swift.org>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 9, 2017, at 4:09 PM, Matthew Johnson <matt...@anandabits.com 
>>> <mailto:matt...@anandabits.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 9, 2017, at 6:04 PM, Ted Kremenek <kreme...@apple.com 
>>>> <mailto:kreme...@apple.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 9, 2017, at 3:52 PM, Ted Kremenek via swift-users 
>>>>> <swift-users@swift.org <mailto:swift-users@swift.org>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’ve been mostly silent in this conversation largely because I didn’t 
>>>>>> realize it was leading up to a formal decision.  I wish it would have 
>>>>>> followed the proposal process so it was clear to everyone that a 
>>>>>> decision was being considered and this was our chance to offer input.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> FWIW, I am not ignoring this thread.  At some point there was diminishing 
>>>>> signal on the thread, and it felt like the category of opinions that had 
>>>>> been voiced had been vocalized on the thread.  Looping in swift-users 
>>>>> into that thread would have been a good thing to do in hindsight so more 
>>>>> people felt like they had a chance to participate.  Based on what I am 
>>>>> seeing in reaction to this decision, however, I’m not seeing much new 
>>>>> signal.
>>>> 
>>>> Just to add to this point — new insights on this topic are welcome, and 
>>>> will be paid attention to.  The decision to change to a forum is because 
>>>> that was evaluated as being the best thing for the community, based on the 
>>>> range of opinions provided and the tradeoffs made.  If there is something 
>>>> important that was missed, obviously that is not going to be ignored.  We 
>>>> want to do the right thing.  So far I still feel that moving to a forum 
>>>> software is the right choice, but I’d like to do that in a way that allows 
>>>> people to still participate effectively via email.
>>> 
>>> Is there any way to have a trial run so we can evaluate the email 
>>> experience of using the forum software before we make the final switch?  I 
>>> agree that this sounds like the right direction, but it’s hard to know what 
>>> the email experience will really be like until we give it a try for a week 
>>> or so.
>> 
>> I need to formalize a plan, but yes I’d like to trial this somehow.  Nate 
>> Cook created a staged installation of Discourse when the thread on 
>> swift-evolution was happening and there was some useful telemetry out of 
>> that experiment (such as how rich text email interacted with doing inline 
>> replies).  Moving to Discourse (or some alternate forum software if we 
>> decide Discourse is not a fit) would be a staged thing.  The main question 
>> to me is how do we do a meaningful trial without actually doing the real 
>> discussions in the forum (while the mailing lists are still running).
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