> If the provider on which one is guesting has a policy to block
> outbound access from their network to all ports used for sending of
> mail, so that they can force one through their SMTP server for sake
> of control, micromanagement, or whatever, then (assuming they know
> about it), would they not then block official port 587 as well as
> port 25?  That was the position I heard the 'customer service rep'
> take the last time I tried to solve such a problem through appeal to
> bureaucratic sensibility.  


What I'm going to say is not new, but I guess we have a lot of trouble
with SMTP because the same port is used as well for the communication
between 2 MTAs as for between a MUA and a MTA. 
I don't know about any provider that doesn't require smtp auth on port
587. 
ISPs should block outgoing connections to port 25 unless they know the
source is a SMTP MTA. I guess this would mitigate a lot of zombies as
it would force them to use the provider's smtp server (which does
outbound spam/virus filtering and ISPs can easily identify their own
customers). Alternatively the zombie would use a remote port 587 but it
would require authentication so again the identification of the "owned"
machine / user would be possible. 


Jean-Pierre

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