I have the problem with this (sorry i must say) of the swiss romande... The 
most blocking of pages are the same law on the blocking page. I don't sure if a 
voud law could send this letter to an ISP in Zuerich... Normaly the must write 
to the "Statsanwaltschaft Zürich" and they must send this letter.
2nd Problem they have only written to the DSL ISP... and Cablecom... Other 
Cable ISP musn't block it. In Switzerland we 1/3 of the costumer has cable 
Internet... and 1/2 of this are not CC Clients...
We habve GGA Maur Sasag, divers "Gemeindewerke", WVZ, RKO Cablenetswiss etc.

With this letter this Networkes musn't block any page... (I have looked the 
list on www.heisse.de)

This is for me a verry big problematic.
I think when we are going this way. we are nearer on china linke USA.

Greetings
X.Aerni

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Yann Gauteron 
  To: swi...@swinog.ch 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [swinog] Post from Canton de Vaud


  I fully agree with this statement, reason why I was pointing out that a 
lawyer opinion would be welcome.

  I'm pretty sure that every people reading this topic on SwiNOG is not sure 
that such a request is fully supported by a law.

  Now, I am not sure that some customers will recourse because one website is 
blocked from a couple of ISPs. But even, it remains an ethical question for the 
ISP to decide if they just carry bits and bytes (as the Swiss post carry 
letters) without worrying what these bytes are coding (as the Swiss post does; 
as of today they do not filter your mail to drop invoices and ads for 
delivering only personal letters and postcards).


  2009/2/17 Tonnerre Lombard <tonne...@bsdprojects.net>

    Salut, Yann,

    In my opinion it is not clear so far whether or not it is legal at all
    for an ISP to block web sites. I think that blindly doing so -
    especially by a dubious court order - might give customers a legal
    right to recourse.






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