No, the most have local peerings.And feed from Swisscom or div. Providers. Some of the little Providers has a CC Feed. I know 4 Cableprovider they make the Internet self. Greetings Xaver
----- Original Message ----- From: <ro...@mgz.ch> To: "Xaver Aerni" <xae...@pop.ch>; <swi...@swinog.ch> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [swinog] Post from Canton de Vaud a lot of them are getting the feed from cablecom allready filtered i think. Roger > > I have the problem with this (sorry i must say) of the swiss romande... > The most blocking of pages > are the same law on the blocking page. I don't sure if a voud law could > send this letter to an ISP in > Zuerich... Normaly the must write to the "Statsanwaltschaft Zürich" and > they must send this letter. > 2nd Problem they have only written to the DSL ISP... and Cablecom... Other > Cable ISP musn't > block it. In Switzerland we 1/3 of the costumer has cable Internet... and > 1/2 of this are not CC > Clients... > We habve GGA Maur Sasag, divers "Gemeindewerke", WVZ, RKO Cablenetswiss > etc. > > With this letter this Networkes musn't block any page... (I have looked > the list on www.heisse.de) > > This is for me a verry bigproblematic. > I think when we are going this way. we are nearer on china linke USA. > > Greetings > X.Aerni > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Yann Gauteron > To: swi...@swinog.ch > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:40 PM > Subject: Re: [swinog] Post from Canton de Vaud > I fully agree with this statement, reason why I was pointing out that > a lawyer opinion would > be welcome. > > I'm pretty sure that every people reading this topic on SwiNOG is not > sure that such a > request is fully supported by a law. > > Now, I am not sure that some customers will recourse because one > website is blocked from > a couple of ISPs. But even, it remains an ethical question for the ISP > to decide if they just > carry bits and bytes (as the Swiss post carry letters) without > worrying what these bytes are > coding (as the Swiss post does; as of today they do not filter your > mail to drop invoices and > ads for delivering only personal letters and postcards). > > 2009/2/17 Tonnerre Lombard <tonne...@bsdprojects.net> > Salut, Yann, > In my opinion it is not clear so far whether or not it is legal at all > for an ISP to block web sites. I think that blindly doing so - > especially by a dubious court order - might give customers a legal > right to recourse. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
