hi andre

we don't filter anything except for private networks (192.168... and so
on..)

root@donald(~)> ping www.3ivx.com
PING 3ivx.com (207.228.238.29) from 193.201.84.50 : 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from pillow.3ivx.com (207.228.238.29): icmp_seq=1 ttl=240
time=111.157 msec
64 bytes from pillow.3ivx.com (207.228.238.29): icmp_seq=2 ttl=240
time=112.502 msec
64 bytes from pillow.3ivx.com (207.228.238.29): icmp_seq=3 ttl=240
time=114.041 msec

> I'm getting really pissed that more and more upstreams are filtering
> their entire backbones without telling anyone (not even their ISP
> customers) and without updating the filters all the time!!! :-(
yeah, i agree. thats pissing. why does they do that? are there some policies
where they write that they will filter 'illegal/gambling/etc.' sites?

> Who are the bad guys? I know that Sunrise, IP-Plus and COLT are
> filtering. Anyone else?
it seems that mci worldcom and telia doesn't filter anything.

-steven

--- 3ivx.com ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% loss, time 2019ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 111.157/112.566/114.041/1.240 ms

gut

> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im
> Auftrag von Andre Oppermann
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. Juli 2002 14:33
> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: [swinog] Filtering the backbone is BAD!!! Don't do it!!!
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> please stop any filtering in the IP backbones! It wreks havroc the
> whole thing. If you do any filtering, then do it on the access network
> gateways to the backbone!
>
> I'm getting really pissed that more and more upstreams are filtering
> their entire backbones without telling anyone (not even their ISP
> customers) and without updating the filters all the time!!! :-(
>
> Who are the bad guys? I know that Sunrise, IP-Plus and COLT are
> filtering. Anyone else?
>
> Look at this. I wanted to access the site of an DivX alternative and
> got this:
>
> # ping www.3ivx.com
> PING 3ivx.com (207.228.238.29): 56 data bytes
> 36 bytes from filter-for-online-gambling-sites-and-RFC1918-addr.zrh1.ch.
> colt.net (212.23.224.56): Destination Host Unreachable
> Vr HL TOS  Len   ID Flg  off TTL Pro  cks      Src      Dst
>  4  5  00 5400 487b   0 0000  3e  01 adb9 212.23.244.90  207.228.238.29
>
>
> --
> Andre
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