Hi Pete,

'Deposit by reference' would probably be used to 'pull' data from a remote 
server.  If you already have the data on your DSpace server, as Mark points out 
there might be better ways to perform the import, such as registering the 
bitstreams, or just performing a local import.

A SWORD deposit by reference might take place in two parts:

 - Deposit some metadata, that includes a description of the file(s) to be 
ingested

 - A second process (perhaps triggered by the SWORD deposit, or undertaken 
later, such as via a DSpace curation task) that ingests the file(s) into the 
DSpace object.

Could you tell us a bit more about the process you want to implement?  Who has 
the data, the metadata, who performs the deposit etc?

Thanks,


Stuart Lewis
Digital Development Manager
Te Tumu Herenga The University of Auckland Library
Auckland Mail Centre, Private Bag 92019, Auckland 1142, New Zealand
Ph: +64 (0)9 373 7599 x81928



On 29/11/2011, at 7:19 AM, Leggett, Pete wrote:

> Stuart,
>  
> Can you provide any links to examples of using ‘deposit by reference’ ?
>  
> I am looking at feasibility of depositing very large items (tar.gz or zip’d 
> data files), say up to 16TB, into Dspace 1.6.x with the obvious problems of 
> doing this using a web interface.
> Wondering if EasyDeposit can be adapted to do ‘deposit by reference’ with 
> either a utility of some kind on the  dspace server looking for large items 
> to injest or a client pushing the data onto a directory on the dspace server 
> from where it can be injested. Ideally want to minimise any copies of the 
> data.
>  
> Really want to avoid copying the item once it’s on the Dspace server. Could 
> item be uploaded directly into asset store maybe ?
> The other problem is how anyone could download the item once it’s in Dspace ?
>  
> Anyone else doing this sort of very large item ( i.e. TB’s ) injest ?
>  
> Thank you,
> 
> Pete
>  
>  
> From: David FLANDERS [mailto:d.fland...@jisc.ac.uk] 
> Sent: 21 November 2011 18:10
> To: Ben O'Steen; Stuart Lewis
> Cc: &lt, sword-app-tech@lists.sourceforge.net&gt, 
> Subject: Re: [sword-app-tech] How to send large fiels
>  
> To second that, some amazing things being done down here in Australia as they 
> take *large* data off of scientific instruments. /dff
>  
> From: Ben O'Steen [mailto:bost...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: 14 November 2011 23:54
> To: Stuart Lewis
> Cc: &lt, sword-app-tech@lists.sourceforge.net&gt, 
> Subject: Re: [sword-app-tech] How to send large fiels
>  
> +1 for deposit by reference. It is almost like giving a metadata receipt for 
> a deposit not happening via the http route.
> 
> I would also highly recommend looking at High-Performance SSH or HPN-SSH. On 
> comparable hardware, I have been shown that it outpaces even grid-ftp for 
> file transfer speeds, but is a backward compatible patch for the openssh 
> library.
> 
> This means that if the server and client are both patched, the transfer is 
> multithreaded and otherwise highly optimized. It means that Unix tools which 
> use SSH benefit as well - rsync, ssh -X, and so on.
> 
> Ben
> 
> On Nov 15, 2011 10:37 AM, "Stuart Lewis" <s.le...@auckland.ac.nz> wrote:
> Hi Jesús,
> 
> The method that seems to work in this setting is to use 'deposit by 
> reference'.  That is, you deposit a description of the item, including 
> details of where the item can be found.  It is then up to ingesting system to 
> pull the data - perhaps via an offline queue process, using some other method 
> (ftp, scp, nfs, etc).
> 
> SWORD v2 might be useful here too, because the SWORD statement could be 
> requested to find out the status of the file upload (for example, using a 
> status such as pending, in-process, complete, failed, etc).  This would allow 
> the sender/depositor to be able to find out the status of the item.
> 
> Let us know how you get on - it is interesting to see the protocol being 
> pushed to its limits with use cases such as yours.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Stuart Lewis
> Digital Development Manager
> Te Tumu Herenga The University of Auckland Library
> Auckland Mail Centre, Private Bag 92019, Auckland 1142, New Zealand
> Ph: +64 (0)9 373 7599 x81928
> 
> 
> 
> On 15/11/2011, at 11:27 AM, Jesús García Crespo wrote:
> 
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > We are using SWORD to deposit DIPs in ICA-AtoM from Archivematica, but we 
> > have encountered some problems with large files (8GB). HTTP requests can be 
> > very resource intensive and unmanageable when the contents are very big. 
> > Does anyone have any recommendations, for depositing large files via the 
> > SWORD protocol? Like maybe sending related files using SFTP and then 
> > indicating the local file route? (That is something we are considering.)
> >
> > Thank you in advance,
> >
> > --
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