Sergio Queiroz escreveu:
Em Tue, 02 May 2006 11:23:44 +0200, Sergio Queiroz escreveu:

Indeed, the PorAA has some problems with strange characters at each
verse ending and with some accents, like the "Ã ". But that it is a
corrupted copy of a copyrighted work is the personal opinion of
Leandro Dutra.
  No, it is not.

Yes It is (I will not extend this discussion).

You have not proven your point, nor tried to counter the fact that it is the same text as VR, corrupted.


  Please stop spreading misinformation.  Just compare the PorAA with
the Versão Revisada.

This means nothing, as they come from the same translation.

        So what?


  More misinformation.  All we know is the website it comes from
(UnBounded Bible if memory doesn’t fail me), and then the site’s
administrators never answered requests for clarification.

Read the message by Chris Little here
http://www.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-devel/2005-June/022350.html

So what? Chris never told us his sources, nor their arguments. He proved nothing.


Notice that the translation by Joao Ferreira de Almeida is very old
(dates from the XVII century--for the new testament at least), so it
has multiple revisions by different bodies, some free of copyright,
some others not.
  So what?

So you say that it is the version by the IBB when it is not. They may be
almost the same as they came from the same public domain sources.

No, the VR comes from the Corrigida. PorAA is exactly the same as VR (plus misspellings, minus omissions), while very different from Corrigida.


The modifications of Leandro could not be accepted because he has
not only solved the technical problems of the module, he has also
updated the text to reflect the copyrighted work that he
mentions. So it could no longer be distributed without the
authorization of the copyright holders of that version.
  Sérgio, it is quite interesting how you phantasize the past to fit
your world view.  Problem is, it amounts to a lie, if unintentional.

Refer back to the aforementioned message.

So what? Chris misunderstood me, and never answered to my clarifications. I never understood why he keeps PorAA, but I may need to request him to take it off now.


  I didn’t ‘update the text to reflect the copyrighted work that (I)
mention(ed)’.  I just fixed typos and missing text.  Do a diff
yourself.

We cannot adding "missing text" based on a copyrighted version and keep
the module free.

        The module was never free.  It infringes IBB’s copy rights.


  So you haven’t read enough.  There are quite some missing passages,
sometimes starting or finishing at mid-sentence or even truncating
words.  Even passing PorAA thru a spellchecker will show you corrupted
passages.

Show us them, and we will fix based on a public domain source.

        If you did that, you would violate IBB’s copy rights statement.


So, I think that you can use the PorAA without fears of having a
corrupted
version.
  Problem is, you ‘think’ too much but never check the facts.

That is also your personal opinion.

        No, your posting history here proves it.


I have at home a small shell script that I have used to correct the
problems with the "à " and the "À" as well as the strange characters
at the end of verses
  If you could be bothered to write a shell script to fix the errors
you see, how come you can’t be bothered to diff it against my files
and see for yourself PorAA is actually a corrupted Revisada?

It is not worth the effort to compare with a copyrighted work, as we
cannot adopt the differences. And comparing with other Almeida will just
show that they are "Almeidas". You can compare with the Almeida Corrigida
e Fiel, by the Trinitarian Bible Society, if you want to. Maybe you can
conclude we also have a "corrupted Almeida Corrigida e Fiel" too.

This is nonsense. PorAA’s differences to VR are only missing or garbled text, while Fiel is a different revision of Corrigida.


  Please please please stop this nonsense!

Again, in your opinion.

        Will no one intervene to stop this nonsense?


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