Jfyi, somebody is working on a script that aims to export mediawiki markup to OSIS in order to provide easy snapshots of German community Bible translation www.offene-bibel.de. This might be something in the way that Peter was imagining. Our translation does use a few custom tags e.g. for parallel verses or hebrew text though. For all who know some German: http://www.offene-bibel.de/news/ofbi-bibelmodul_inoffizieller_vorabversion http://www.offene-bibel.de/forum/osis_konverter
Would it be worthwhile to pursue this approach and make it applicable to module making in general? Ben 2011/8/15 Peter von Kaehne <ref...@gmx.net> > I think the route of a MS Word/OOo -> module is so fraught with > difficulties that it is simply pointless to think one can automatise it. > > What i can see and many people seem to cope just fine with is using some > simple markup used in fora software, wikis and blogs. People then can be > told - these are the 20 codes we support and please get going. > > This is largely semantic markup, but is also easily understood. > > Peter > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > > Datum: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:55:03 +1000 > > Von: Jonathan Morgan <jonmmor...@gmail.com> > > An: "SWORD Developers\' Collaboration Forum" <sword-devel@crosswire.org> > > Betreff: Re: [sword-devel] Logos Personal Book Builder > > > Hi Greg, > > > > On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 4:45 AM, Greg Hellings > > <greg.helli...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > I have pursued the avenue of docx -> Bible conversion in the past and, > > > allow me to state unequivocally, it is incredibly complex. The sheer > > > number of ways to mark up the same item and material makes any sort of > > > attempt at such a conversion almost impossible to conceive. I never > > > completed the project (my apologies to David for that), but I did get > > > so far as to have the base text working in SWORD. However, headings > > > were in the wrong places, foot notes were acknowledged but not > > > present, and many other things were very wrong with the results I > > > produced. Not to mention that the parsing was highly dependent upon > > > that one text and the manner in which its editor had elected to markup > > > his works. I have since come into possession of better tools which > > > would make some parts of the process easier, but by no means would it > > > be simple. > > > > > > > I'm not surprised. I don't know how long it took Logos to develop their > > PBB > > and how many programmers were involved, but I do know it was originally > > tentatively planned for 2010. As you say, I think a big part of the > > problem > > is the number of ways a thing can be represented as (plus the general > > problem of trying to map from presentation to meaning - it's also > possible > > that Logos has a more presentational format than you are targetting). I > > think Logos handles things like verses using pre-defined styles, but I've > > only played with it, not read the documentation. > > > > > > > Producing a general book might have better results, but it would still > > > be a monumental undertaking for anyone who wanted to tackle it. I am > > > up to my ears right now in other projects or I might consider it. > > > Also, I lack any sort of source texts which would make it worthwhile > > > for myself to undertake the project. > > > > > > > Indeed. > > > > Jon > > > > > > > > > > --Greg > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Benjamin Misja <alv...@googlemail.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > The new PBB feature sounds exciting and I will definitely see if I > can > > > > integrate some papers and additional bible translations into my Logos > > > library. > > > > > > > > I would think that having a comparable feature for making SWORD > > modules > > > would > > > > give a huge boost to both the available amount of books and community > > > > participation. I think SWORD should make tools like this available to > > the > > > > community at any cost. It would take making modules out of the hands > > of > > > those > > > > who know at least regular expressions and some programming language > > and > > > put it > > > > into the hands of anybody who would want to make a module. I know I'd > > be > > > > making a lot of them if only I could! It would make SWORD so much > > cooler > > > and > > > > more dynamic. ;-) > > > > > > > > Just my humble opinion, > > > > > > > > Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > Am Sonntag, 14. August 2011, 23:28:39 schrieb Jonathan Morgan: > > > >> I don't usually comment on competing products, but I thought the new > > > >> (long-expected) Logos Personal Book Builder was worth commenting on. > > > You > > > >> can find a post about it at > > > >> > > http://blog.logos.com/2011/08/personal-book-builder-the-inside-scoop/. > > > The > > > >> main difference from most software is the fact that books are built > > by > > > >> importing a docx file rather than entering any text into an editor, > > > which > > > >> hopefully means minimal work to make it happen. The created books > > can > > > then > > > >> just be shared as you wish, even through the main Logos servers. > > > >> > > > >> I personally do not intend to do anything about this, but I thought > > it > > > worth > > > >> mentioning to see what others thought of the idea. Certainly > > > difficulties > > > >> converting the text into a usable form seem to crop up quite a bit > > for > > > >> SWORD, and we have no knowledge of how many people just give up > > without > > > >> asking (I know there is a project to work with OpenOffice to create > > > >> Genbooks, but I have never used it and so do not know how capable > and > > > how > > > >> automatic it is). > > > >> > > > >> Thoughts? > > > >> > > > >> Jon > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > > > > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > > > > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > > > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > > > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page > > > > > -- > NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zurück-Garantie! > Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone > > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page >
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