Dear Andrew,

We previously had a volunteer manage and keep certain details of copyright information (contact, lead, etc.) up at:

http://crosswire.org/sword/copyright/

The volunteer has moved on to other things away from CrossWire and this site is no longer kept current so we don't link to these pages any longer.

Regarding the actual license agreements with publishers, these are not something that we would publish online. Often publishers have agreements with many organizations and work out different agreements with different organizations. Some pay fees; some do not. We have had agreements where we have volunteers pay nominal fees to keep our agreements current. Publisher expect this information to remain confidential. This is typical. For example, when Logos distributes a work freely or for a fee to an end user, they never publish their actual agreement with the publisher which states how much Logos pays per module or per annum for the rights to make material available to their users. It would violate the publisher's trust. Granted, the majority of our agreements probably have nothing anyone would mind being made public, but I am not willing to make those judgments. If a publisher challenges our right to distribute their text, I will certainly make our agreement available to them, but not to end users who challenge our right to distribute a work. If they feel they have legitimate reasons for doubting we have permission, they should inform the publisher who can take action if they also feel the same. I'm not encouraging you to inform publishers that we might not have the right to distribute modules; in fact, most of this thread has been because we are highly sensitive to honor publisher agreements.

We give publishers a choice of what they would like displayed to the end user. We ask them to choose from our list here:

http://crosswire.org/wiki/DevTools:conf_Files#DistributionLicense

They feel this is clear:

*Copyrighted; Permission to distribute granted to CrossWire
*
No other public distribution should be made. I understand your heart to help by publicly making a text available to a developer, and also for the mirrors. I appreciate your desire to help. Please know that when it comes to violating copyright, we desire to avoid even the appearance of evil. A work available on a public website (for any purpose, however good) which is not authorized by the publisher of the text, is against our policy. I appreciate that you've removed the text and are working to be sure you are no longer mirroring our other content which is licensed by us exclusively for distribution by CrossWire. This is most appreciated, and I hope this is all simply a misunderstanding and that wounds can heal and we can share in positive work together.

Troy




On 01/06/2013 04:40 PM, Andrew Thule wrote:
Since this has been a controversial topic recently (and since accusations have made the matter personal), can Crosswire please post (to the wiki) the terms of its licensing agreements with each Copyright holder (on a module by module basis) so that its licensing rights are known and transparent to all?

Since Crosswire is asserting these rights it must be prove it actually posses them and outline what they are (or it must forfeit the right to exercise them). Since it is holding module developers accountable to its licensing terms, it must make the license public, for the sake of transparency.

Thanks.

~A


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