Y'all:
If this question involves the use of that address www.bibletechnologies.net
with respect to XML and validation of an XML file, please note that it
has been a point of general confusion for XML users, but the address is
only a unique identifier. There is no need for any parser or validator
to actually access that URL. This is a rather obscure point.
If the question is otherwise, sorry for another email.
Tom Sullivan
i...@beforgiven.info
FAX: 815-301-2835
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On 3/15/19 10:11 AM, David Haslam wrote:
As regards the BibleTech conference.
Much though I’d love to come to something I’ve never been to, there are
personal circumstances preventing it this year.
If Troy does attend, please can something be done about the permanent
timeout that occurs for the domain specified in the OSIS header!
http://www.bibletechnologies.net/
This still needs fixing, even if the OSIS committee no longer convenes.
Who is able to unravel this ?
Best regards,
David
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On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 00:44, Troy A. Griffitts <scr...@crosswire.org
<mailto:scr...@crosswire.org>> wrote:
To piggy-back on what Peter is saying... from the last few emails, I
am not sure everyone is on the same page...
Michael Paul Johnson already converts the free DBL texts to SWORD
modules automatically and makes them available for all of our software
(the ebible.org remote installation source). As Peter says, I don't
believe an automated conversion of USX to OSIS is ideal, but it works
well enough to mostly read the text. I think Michael has done the
best job he can do with an automated conversion of USX to OSIS to
SWORD module.
My previous encouragement to proceed to pursue one Bible of interest
with a publisher was not an encouragement to do this with the intent
to start a 3rd party company to sell content for CrossWire software
for that publisher. My encouragement was to follow our policy and
negotiate as a volunteer of CrossWire and explain CrossWire's policy
to the publisher and offer to do the work and let the publisher sell
their unlock key. To be clear, I would discourage anyone from
pursuing an effort to start another organization to become a middleman
selling publisher data for CrossWire software. There are very good
reasons we are a non-income organization and it has served us well.
It removes jealousy from any individual making money from the
collaboration of so many. I would make very clear to any publisher we
speak with that we discourage and do not endorse any organization who
wishes to sell that publishers content for CrossWire software, other
than the publisher themselves. To repeat, I am not against modern
content being sold for CrossWire software. We have spent much effort
into facilitating this for publishers and have a plan for them which
they have been happy to follow. Summarily, in my experience over the
past 5 years, any publisher I have pursued has been willing to take
advantage of our current policy, as I have explained. They are happy
to sell their own content. They are surprised we don't want a cut.
They appreciate our ministry. Please do not try to solve a problem
which you have not yet run up against. The issue is motivated
volunteers. We have had people take this up in the past. Here is our
last effort:
http://crosswire.org/sword/copyright/
It has been so long ago, I can't remember who was leading that
effort. It has long been defunct, but the goals were all aligned with
our community. Reach out to publishers, explain what we offer them,
keep track of contacts and history of communication, encourage other
volunteers to understand our policies and get involved to push a pet
text forward.
Please feel free to do the hard work of following our policy to
negotiate, obtain data, convert, encipher, and give the key back to
the publisher to sell... the ultimate end would be for them to even
manage their own remote install source, which we are happy to add to
our autodiscovery registry.
Please also be specific here as to which text you are pursuing. We may
already have a relationship. For example, I am personally involved
with the Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft (the German Bible Society which
Tobias mentions) and those who make the online distribution decisions
for copyrighted material. It would be strange for someone else to
email them cold and say, "Hey, I represent CrossWire." If you want to
pursue a text which I've not yet spoken to them about, I am happy to
introduce you.
Regarding other modern material in digital libraries from Logos, et
al., Tyndale House attempts to fill this void of producing freely
available modern scholarship. As David Haslam has mentioned, much of
their material is in SWORD format. I believe their intent is to
ultimate make their remote install repository fully SWORD compatible
and for us to add it to our autodiscovery registry so our other
frontends can use their great materials. Currently, only their
JSword-based STEP application accesses their materials now and it uses
some material which is not in our module storage format. David
Instone-Brewer is the contact there and we should touch base with them
again to see where things stand.
Some of these digital publishers, e.g., Logos, also secure exclusive
digital rights from content creators to distribute their work
digitally. They justify this by saying that they partially fund the
research by paying for exclusive rights. Anyway, that's a completely
different topic...
Which reminds me...
Is anyone going to BibleTech this year? I haven't been for a really
long time. The last time I believe is when I met Karl there!
https://faithlife.com/bibletech
In Him,
Troy
On 3/13/19 3:01 PM, ref...@gmx.net wrote:
I think it is simply inappropriate for an external organisation
to.negotiate on behalf of or instead of CrossWire
Further I am really upset about the confusing of the "problem" with
popular but expensive and hence unavailable texts and the other stuff
in DBL. We have excellent relationships with many Bible societies and
now you setting up something which confuses this is simply wrong.
If you must, concentrate on NIV etc, but please do not create an
alternative path for publication of CrossWire modules for the bulk of
this world's languages
Wrt bulk conversion. Does not work and those who think it does have
not worked long enough with texts to the standard we want to see in
CrissWire
Peter
Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird
autocorrects.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Platform for the distribution of non-free
Sword Modules
From: Tobias Klein
To: Dominique Corbex ,SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
CC:
On 13.03.19 13:14, Dominique Corbex wrote:
> In France, people use modern (non-free) translation too, but
*printed*
> Bibles.
> Some people I know have installed Bible apps on their phones
but are not willing to pay for a non-free version.
> And for good reason, popular modern translation have their own
free apps on Play Store:
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.SBG.s21)
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.book.bible.bds
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bible.jang.frpdv
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bible.parole.de.vie
Apps are often times available with non-free translations for
free, but
that's not the case for decent desktop bible study software.
Even if the market is reduced to desktop bible study programs,
that's
still a rather large market where Sword-based software could
increase
its share.
Desktop bible study software is often times used by people in
ministries
(teaching/preaching/bible study preparation). And these kind of
users
are usually also ready to pay.
Best regards,
Tobias
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