Y'all:
If this question involves the use of that address
www.bibletechnologies.net
with respect to XML and validation of an XML file, please note that it
has been a point of general confusion for XML users, but the address is
only a unique identifier. There is no need for any parser or validator
to actually access that URL. This is a rather obscure point.
If the question is otherwise, sorry for another email.
Tom Sullivan
i...@beforgiven.info
FAX: 815-301-2835
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On 3/15/19 10:11 AM, David Haslam wrote:
> As regards the BibleTech conference.
>
> Much though I’d love to come to something I’ve never been to, there are
> personal circumstances preventing it this year.
>
> If Troy does attend, please can something be done about the permanent
> timeout that occurs for the domain specified in the OSIS header!
>
> http://www.bibletechnologies.net/
>
> This still needs fixing, even if the OSIS committee no longer convenes.
>
> Who is able to unravel this ?
>
> Best regards,
>
> David
>
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 00:44, Troy A. Griffitts <scr...@crosswire.org
> <mailto:scr...@crosswire.org>> wrote:
>>
>> To piggy-back on what Peter is saying... from the last few emails, I
>> am not sure everyone is on the same page...
>>
>> Michael Paul Johnson already converts the free DBL texts to SWORD
>> modules automatically and makes them available for all of our software
>> (the ebible.org remote installation source). As Peter says, I don't
>> believe an automated conversion of USX to OSIS is ideal, but it works
>> well enough to mostly read the text. I think Michael has done the
>> best job he can do with an automated conversion of USX to OSIS to
>> SWORD module.
>>
>> My previous encouragement to proceed to pursue one Bible of interest
>> with a publisher was not an encouragement to do this with the intent
>> to start a 3rd party company to sell content for CrossWire software
>> for that publisher. My encouragement was to follow our policy and
>> negotiate as a volunteer of CrossWire and explain CrossWire's policy
>> to the publisher and offer to do the work and let the publisher sell
>> their unlock key. To be clear, I would discourage anyone from
>> pursuing an effort to start another organization to become a middleman
>> selling publisher data for CrossWire software. There are very good
>> reasons we are a non-income organization and it has served us well.
>> It removes jealousy from any individual making money from the
>> collaboration of so many. I would make very clear to any publisher we
>> speak with that we discourage and do not endorse any organization who
>> wishes to sell that publishers content for CrossWire software, other
>> than the publisher themselves. To repeat, I am not against modern
>> content being sold for CrossWire software. We have spent much effort
>> into facilitating this for publishers and have a plan for them which
>> they have been happy to follow. Summarily, in my experience over the
>> past 5 years, any publisher I have pursued has been willing to take
>> advantage of our current policy, as I have explained. They are happy
>> to sell their own content. They are surprised we don't want a cut.
>> They appreciate our ministry. Please do not try to solve a problem
>> which you have not yet run up against. The issue is motivated
>> volunteers. We have had people take this up in the past. Here is our
>> last effort:
>>
>> http://crosswire.org/sword/copyright/
>>
>> It has been so long ago, I can't remember who was leading that
>> effort. It has long been defunct, but the goals were all aligned with
>> our community. Reach out to publishers, explain what we offer them,
>> keep track of contacts and history of communication, encourage other
>> volunteers to understand our policies and get involved to push a pet
>> text forward.
>>
>> Please feel free to do the hard work of following our policy to
>> negotiate, obtain data, convert, encipher, and give the key back to
>> the publisher to sell... the ultimate end would be for them to even
>> manage their own remote install source, which we are happy to add to
>> our autodiscovery registry.
>>
>> Please also be specific here as to which text you are pursuing. We may
>> already have a relationship. For example, I am personally involved
>> with the Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft (the German Bible Society which
>> Tobias mentions) and those who make the online distribution decisions
>> for copyrighted material. It would be strange for someone else to
>> email them cold and say, "Hey, I represent CrossWire." If you want to
>> pursue a text which I've not yet spoken to them about, I am happy to
>> introduce you.
>>
>> Regarding other modern material in digital libraries from Logos, et
>> al., Tyndale House attempts to fill this void of producing freely
>> available modern scholarship. As David Haslam has mentioned, much of
>> their material is in SWORD format. I believe their intent is to
>> ultimate make their remote install repository fully SWORD compatible
>> and for us to add it to our autodiscovery registry so our other
>> frontends can use their great materials. Currently, only their
>> JSword-based STEP application accesses their materials now and it uses
>> some material which is not in our module storage format. David
>> Instone-Brewer is the contact there and we should touch base with them
>> again to see where things stand.
>>
>> Some of these digital publishers, e.g., Logos, also secure exclusive
>> digital rights from content creators to distribute their work
>> digitally. They justify this by saying that they partially fund the
>> research by paying for exclusive rights. Anyway, that's a completely
>> different topic...
>>
>> Which reminds me...
>>
>> Is anyone going to BibleTech this year? I haven't been for a really
>> long time. The last time I believe is when I met Karl there!
>>
>> https://faithlife.com/bibletech
>>
>> In Him,
>>
>> Troy
>>
>>
>> On 3/13/19 3:01 PM, ref...@gmx.net wrote:
>>> I think it is simply inappropriate for an external organisation
>>> to.negotiate on behalf of or instead of CrossWire
>>>
>>> Further I am really upset about the confusing of the "problem" with
>>> popular but expensive and hence unavailable texts and the other stuff
>>> in DBL. We have excellent relationships with many Bible societies and
>>> now you setting up something which confuses this is simply wrong.
>>>
>>> If you must, concentrate on NIV etc, but please do not create an
>>> alternative path for publication of CrossWire modules for the bulk of
>>> this world's languages
>>>
>>> Wrt bulk conversion. Does not work and those who think it does have
>>> not worked long enough with texts to the standard we want to see in
>>> CrissWire
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird
>>> autocorrects.
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Platform for the distribution of non-free
>>> Sword Modules
>>> From: Tobias Klein
>>> To: Dominique Corbex ,SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
>>> CC:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13.03.19 13:14, Dominique Corbex wrote:
>>> > In France, people use modern (non-free) translation too, but
>>> *printed*
>>> > Bibles.
>>> > Some people I know have installed Bible apps on their phones
>>> but are not willing to pay for a non-free version.
>>> > And for good reason, popular modern translation have their own
>>> free apps on Play Store:
>>> > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.SBG.s21)
>>> > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.book.bible.bds
>>> > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bible.jang.frpdv
>>> > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bible.parole.de.vie
>>>
>>> Apps are often times available with non-free translations for
>>> free, but
>>> that's not the case for decent desktop bible study software.
>>> Even if the market is reduced to desktop bible study programs,
>>> that's
>>> still a rather large market where Sword-based software could
>>> increase
>>> its share.
>>> Desktop bible study software is often times used by people in
>>> ministries
>>> (teaching/preaching/bible study preparation). And these kind of
>>> users
>>> are usually also ready to pay.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Tobias
>>>
>>>
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