On 10/5/23 13:06, Greg Hellings wrote:
I've gone ahead and directly added you as an admin on the two projects.
Thank you so much!
On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 1:00 PM Aaron Rainbolt <arraybo...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 9/28/23 11:29, Greg Hellings wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 12:14 Aaron Rainbolt
<arraybo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey, thanks for your help!
>
> I was able to just repack and remove most everything
offending. I
> figured I should share the info upstream so that if there was
> anything
> you wanted to do on your end, you could, but obviously if you're
> comfortable keeping things as they are, I don't have a problem
> with that :)
>
>
> There are others who are pumpkin holders for separate parts and
> they'll need to decide on updating their pieces. I own CMake and
the
> Swig bindings (Python and Perl for us).
>
>
> I'll submit a patch for the Python bindings, the fix was fairly
> simple.
>
> As for ftpparse, I could potentially try writing a
replacement myself
> and license it as GPLv2. We already probably have a good
starting
> point
> since the FileZilla project is under GPL-2.0-or-later, and
appears to
> have its own independently developed directory litsing parser
> written in
> C++ (see
>
https://svn.filezilla-project.org/filezilla/FileZilla3/trunk/src/engine/directorylistingparser.cpp?revision=10945&view=markup
<https://svn.filezilla-project.org/filezilla/FileZilla3/trunk/src/engine/directorylistingparser.cpp?revision=10945&view=markup>
>
<https://svn.filezilla-project.org/filezilla/FileZilla3/trunk/src/engine/directorylistingparser.cpp?revision=10945&view=markup
<https://svn.filezilla-project.org/filezilla/FileZilla3/trunk/src/engine/directorylistingparser.cpp?revision=10945&view=markup>>).
>
> We could port the logic from that into something
SWORD-compatible
> perhaps?
>
>
> That would probably work. Part of the goal with SWORD is that it
needs
> no hard external library dependencies. Thus why ftpparse has been
> included inline. A novel contribution that replaces those but is
still
> highly portable C would likely be welcomed.
>
>
> One more question about the CMake files, you mention that
> FindXZ.cmake
> is your original contribution and would be GPLv2, but it appears
> to be
> ported from the BSD-3-Clause FindBZIP2.cmake. Just to be clear,
> since it
> contains your modifications, it should be "upgraded" to GPLv2 as
> it now
> contains your GPLv2 contributions? If so, are there any other
> files in
> the CMake folder that should be similarly "upgraded"?
Potentially
> all of
> them if they've all had to be modified for SWORD?
>
>
> I don't believe I had to modify anything. They were simply
pulled in
> so I could maintain support for old versions of CMake - like on
CentOS
> 6 and old Ubuntu LTS versions at the time - that had the core
> functionality needed but just lacked a file which newer CMake had
> bundled. Including most of them is likely a moot point by now as
those
> versions are ancient. Yes, I undoubtedly modified it from
FindBZIP2 as
> it was a later addition to the optional dependencies. The only
reason
> to upgrade to GPL2 is that it's the exclusive license and
version for
> SWORD contributions, in absence of compelling reasons to the
contrary.
>
>
> Thanks so much for your help! Also, did you also previously
maintain
> Xiphos and Bibletime? If so, I would love to take
maintainership of
> those too so I can keep everything SWORD-related from
dropping out of
> Fedora.
>
>
> I'm fairly certain that I am. If not the owner I was the defacto
> maintainer. You are welcome to take over those packages, for
sure. Let
> me know if you need me to do the needful for that. I don't think
> they've been officially orphaned for F39, but would be on the
chopping
> block for F40 in the absence of sword making it back in.
Thanks! If all of the comaintainers for Xiphos and BibleTime are
also no
longer available or interested, I think it would be helpful if you
could
go into https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/xiphos and
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/bibletime and click the "Orphan"
button on those. I'll take them once that's done and should be
able to
help keep them maintained.
Thanks for all your help, and God bless!
Aaron
>
> --Greg
>
>
> God bless, and thanks again.
>
> Aaron
>
> On 9/28/23 07:05, Greg Hellings wrote:
> > Aaron,
> >
> > As the previous maintainer who dropped support, thank you for
> picking
> > it up. I have moved on from being a Fedora user (NixOS these
> days) and
> > was no longer maintaining those packages nor the apps that
> depend on
> > it. I am, however, the pumpkin holder for the Python and Perl
> > bindings. If you want to submit a patch to us that gets those
> working
> > again I would be happy to include it upstream.
> >
> > Any files under the cmake folder were contributed by me. Those
> noting
> > a license were taken from later CMake versions and would match
> > licenses there. The FindXZ file is my original
contribution and is
> > under the GPLv2 like all other original SWORD code.
> >
> > The gSOAP and Objective-C bindings should be safe to remove in
> Fedora
> > as there is no need for them there.
> >
> > The win32 files would only affect the MinGW build of sword in
> Fedora,
> > which was not retired as it was unaffected by the Python
changes.
> >
> > ftpparse is a constant thorn in our side whenever people
become
> hung
> > up on the commercial clause. While not strictly necessary to
> SWORD, as
> > HTTP and HTTPS are supported if the library is built with cURL
> > support, it would be a huge loss of functionality for most
> users. It
> > probably is time to consider rewriting their functionality.
> >
> > The Android jar file is also unnecessary for your
packaging and you
> > can safely delete it. And the whole pqa folder for diatheke
> should be
> > tossed. Likely at the SVN level, as I'm sure we are not
building
> Palm
> > binaries anymore.
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> > --Greg
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 01:06 Aaron Rainbolt
> <arraybo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Good morning/evening, and thanks for your time.
> >
> > Recently SWORD was removed from Fedora 39 because of a bug
> > relating to
> > the python bindings (it's still using distutils rather
than
> > setuptools,
> > which needed to be fixed, but the maintainer didn't
fix it in
> > time). I'm
> > attempting to get SWORD back into Fedora by fixing the
> issue, but
> > as the
> > package was already retired, I'm preparing to
reintroduce it
> as if it
> > were being added for the first time. For the sake of
making
> things go
> > smoothly, I did a full licensing audit on the SWORD source
> code to
> > ensure that all licenses were compliant with Fedora's
> requirements.
> >
> > Some of the results of this audit were
less-than-ideal, so I
> > thought I
> > would share the results with you so that you can take any
> measures
> > you
> > deem appropriate. I'm in the process of resolving these
> issues in
> > Fedora.
> >
> > * There are several files under sword-1.9.0/cmake that
have
> unclear
> > licenses (referring to "the BSD license" but without
> specifying which
> > version, and telling the user to look at a file that
doesn't
> exist
> > for
> > the license details). I *believe* these files are
licensed under
> > BSD-3-Clause, as I found the original source for all
but one
> of them,
> > however I could not find the original source for
> > sword-1.9.0/cmake/FindXZ.cmake.
> >
> > * The gSOAP bindings contain a file,
> > sword-1.9.0/bindings/gsoap/include/stdsoap.h, which has no
> license
> > and
> > an "All rights reserved" notice.
> >
> > * The Objective-C bindings have a similar problem - the
> following
> > files
> > under sword-1.9.0/bindings/objc all have no license
and an "All
> > rights
> > reserved" notice:
> > - ObjCSword.h
> > - src/Notifications.h (yes I realize this file
consists
> > entirely of
> > comments but this is still worrying)
> > - src/SwordBibleBook.h
> > - src/SwordBibleBook.m
> > - src/SwordBibleChapter.h
> > - src/SwordBibleChapter.m
> > - src/SwordBibleTextEntry.h
> > - src/SwordBibleTextEntry.m
> > - src/SwordInstallSource.h
> > - src/SwordInstallManager.h
> > - src/SwordInstallManager.mm
> > - src/SwordInstallSource.mm
> > - src/SwordKey.h
> > - src/SwordKey.m
> > - src/SwordListKey.h
> > - src/SwordListKey.mm
> > - src/SwordLocaleManager.h
> > - src/SwordLocaleManager.mm
> > - src/SwordModuleIndex.h
> > - src/SwordModuleIndex.m
> > - src/SwordModuleTextEntry.h
> > - src/SwordModuleTextEntry.m
> > - src/SwordTreeEntry.h
> > - src/SwordTreeEntry.m
> > - src/SwordVerseKey.h
> > - src/SwordVerseKey.mm
> > - src/SwordVerseManager.h
> > - src/SwordVerseManager.m
> > - src/VerseEnumerator.h
> > - src/VerseEnumerator.m
> > - src/services/Configuration.h
> > - src/services/Configuration.m
> > - src/services/iOSConfiguration.h
> > - src/services/iOSConfiguration.m
> > - src/services/OSXConfiguration.h
> > - src/services/OSXConfiguration.m
> > - SWORD/SWORD/SWORD.h
> > - SWORD/SWORD/SWORD.m
> > - test/SwordListKeyTest.h
> > - test/SwordListKeyTest.m
> > - test/SwordModuleLongRunTest.h
> > - test/SwordModuleLongRunTest.mm
> > - test/SwordModuleTest.h
> > - test/SwordModuleTest.m
> >
> > * Two files under sword-1.9.0/src/utilfuns/win32 are under
> non-free
> > licenses - they prohibit the sale of media containing
those
> files for
> > anything greater than the cost of distribution.
> >
> > * The files sword-1.9.0/include/ftpparse.h and
> > sword-1.9.0/src/utilfuns/ftpparse.c are under informal
non-free
> > licenses
> > prohibiting commercial use unless the copyright owner is
> informed of
> > what program uses the files. This code appears to be
critical to
> > SWORD's
> > functionality (as FTP is used for module downloading),
so I have
> > attempted to contact the author and ask that ftpparse be
> > relicensed to
> > 0BSD (which should be compatible with the licenses in
SWORD).
> >
> > In addition to the above, I discovered some pre-built
binary
> files
> > floating around:
> > -
> >
>
sword-1.9.0/bindings/Android/SWORD/gradle/wrapper/gradle-wrapper.jar
> > - sword-1.9.0/utilities/diatheke/pqa/Diatheke.pqa
> >
> > While these aren't strictly a problem, they do have to be
> removed in
> > Fedora. You might consider removing them from your SVN
repo if
> > possible
> > and not too inconvenient.
> >
> > I hope this message finds you all doing well! God
bless, and
> > thanks for
> > all the work you've put into the SWORD Project!
> >
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