+1 to 2.1 asap and 2.2 LTS

On Wednesday, May 2, 2012 4:04:32 AM UTC-4, Lukas Smith wrote:
>
> Hi, 
>
> So first up: yes we dropped the ball. Symfony 2.1 should have been 
> released 4-5 months ago. So we screwed up. But stuff like this happens. 
> Overall we are in a luxurious situation that we have such a huge stream of 
> contributions that it poses a challenge. Now we need to deal with this 
> screw up and also ensure we prevent this from happening again. 
>
> I have a bit of experience as the release manager of PHP 5.3 that its 
> impossibly hard to try and wait for big chunks of code to mature in a 
> healthy project with lots of other contributions. Everybody thinks their 
> little change is a no risk must have. But everything that gets added does 
> take time to review, has the risk of hidden surprises and in the end also 
> needs to be documented. 
>
> At the same time there is no guarantee when exactly those big chunks of 
> code will be ready to be shipped. Its good that Victor is helping Bernhard 
> but even if everyone would now help on the form/validation component, that 
> would probably not speed things up much. Everybody should however make sure 
> to provide timely feedback to their progress. 
>
> But at any rate, any of these numbers people have mentioned are ok to wait 
> for the form/validation component to mature are crystal ball estimates. 2, 
> 3, 4 months, august .. its all just educated guesses. 
>
> Furthermore I dont think that breaking BC is binary. There are a lot of 
> grey areas in between. We have a ton of really useful things in master 
> already. 
>
> Finally the key goal here is that we want to get to an LTS release. I am 
> not so sure that if we wait until August for 2.1 that we will have the 
> confidence to release it as an LTS. So imho it makes more sense to come out 
> with a 2.1 ASAP and then set us a timeline and feature set to target for 
> 2.2 as an LTS. IMHO the RC phase should be planned for 
> September/Oktober/November. Aka we feature freeze in September and then 
> give us 2 months to release. But as noted above, there are never 
> guarantees. 
>
> regards, 
> Lukas Kahwe Smith 
> [email protected] 
>
>
>
>

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