I like the idea of a modern Q&A site - I guess option C. Code highlighting would be fabulous.
On Tuesday, 26 March 2013 07:21:13 UTC-4, Matt Robinson wrote: > > As far as I know, PHPbb doesn't do email round-tripping (putting email > replies back on the site), but something like https://postmarkapp.com or > http://context.io could help that integration if necessary. I've tried > doing email integration manually before, and it's one of those things where > you can get 90% of the way in no time at all, and then (since email > implementations are so varied and so horrible), the remaining 10% will kill > you :P. > > As Fabien pointed out, we've had the forums since 2005, so I suspect that > most of the people reading this largely prefer the mailing list (in other > words, we've had the choice for years, and we've chosen not to use the > forums). The question is whether to respect that or force the communities > together. If there's a clear benefit to doing so, then we should probably > just get it over with. If nothing else, it should be a boost to the phpbb > development community ;). If on the other hand merging the communities is > out of nothing more than a desire for neatness (not saying it is), then we > should probably just set up Mailman or Lamson or whatever and carry on as > if nothing happened. > > I used to run a moderately sized (hundreds of users) mailing list and > transitioned it to a moderately sized (thousands of users) forum. The > biggest difference I saw was that with a mailing list, everyone sees > everything; it's self-limiting (and limited). With a forum, people tend to > specialise into sub-forums as the amount of traffic grows, becoming less > cohesive but allowing for a lot more growth. It also seemed that mailing > list and forum had very different tones - the format and delivery of the > discussion have an effect on the kind of discussion that's had. This isn't > necessarily a bad thing - more people get actively involved in discussions > on forums than they did on mailing lists, where they'd usually just lurk. > It means more work for moderators to keep everything on topic, but it also > means that there's more involvement from the wider community. > > > On 26 Mar 2013, at 09:15, David Buchmann <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > > > can phpbb also handle answering to emails? sort of like github or jira, > > where an answer email creates a new comment on the issue... > > > > then i think we could take this as a chance to re-unite the forum and > > mailinglist communities. > > > > if it won't be possible to answer by email, we either need somebody to > > build such a plugin or find something else imho. > > > > cheers,david > > > > > > Am 26.03.2013 08:45, schrieb Bob den Otter: > >> PHPBB supports sending emails "out of the box". Both for threads you've > >> posted in as well as forums/threads you've subscribed to. Not that i'm > >> saying it's the best way to go, just to let you know that this isn't a > >> big reason _not_ to choose it. > >> > >> Personally, i'd think a Stack Overflow or Discourse site would work > great. > >> > >> Cheers, Bob. > >> > >> Op dinsdag 26 maart 2013 07:52:00 UTC+1 schreef Fabien Potencier het > >> volgende: > >> > >> Hi all, > >> > >> Unfortunately and for no reasons, the Symfony2 mailing-list is gone > for > >> the second time in a very short period of time. It happened some > weeks > >> ago and I was not able to contact anyone about the issue. The > >> mailing-list came back and still not a single email from Google > about > >> what happened. > >> > >> So, I think it's time to move on. We cannot be hostages of Google > for > >> our support and our knowledge base. There are several options to > >> replace > >> the Google mailing-lists and I want to get your opinion on the best > one > >> to choose before doing anything (the decision will probably also > impact > >> all my other mailing-lists on Google - Swiftmailer, Silex, Twig, > ...): > >> > >> * A - Migrate all the discussions on the Symfony forum > >> (forum.symfony-project.org <http://forum.symfony-project.org>). > >> > >> * Pros: it's online since 2005, it has a massive amount of > >> registered > >> people, we already have a big archive of knowledge there, it's > written > >> with phpBB (which uses Symfony and several core team members are > also > >> part of the Symfony community), it allows us to unify the community, > >> which is split right now. > >> > >> * Cons: Some people don't like forums because they want > >> everything to > >> happen in an email client (but it might be possible to use phpBB > that > >> way too). > >> > >> * B - Host our own mailing-list software and provide the same kind > of > >> service as Google Groups > >> > >> * Pros: The disruption won't be big with what we have now. > >> > >> * Cons: The community will still be split in two, only because of > >> some preferences. What kind of software to use? All of them seems > old > >> and outdated. The only one that looks great is Lamson > >> (http://lamsonproject.org/). > >> > >> * C - Use a more "modern" approach to discussions like the recently > >> released Discourse software (http://www.discourse.org/) -- which is > >> Open-Source. > >> > >> Of course, relying on a third-party is not an option anymore. So, > stack > >> overflow or any other forum/mailing-list providers are not an > option. > >> > >> jQuery chose the first option (A) some time ago and they don't seem > to > >> regret it. Drupal also uses a forum and no mailing-list as far as I > >> know. So, that works. > >> > >> Zend Framework and many other Open-Source projects hosts their own > >> mailing-lists. > >> > >> My personal preference is either A or B without a clear winner. A is > >> probably better for the community, B is probably less disruptive. > >> > >> What do you want us to do? > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Fabien > >> > >> -- > >> Fabien Potencier > >> SensioLabs CEO - Symfony lead developer > >> sensiolabs.com <http://sensiolabs.com> | symfony.com > >> <http://symfony.com> | fabien.potencier.org > >> <http://fabien.potencier.org> > >> +33 1 40 99 80 80 > >> > >> -- > >> -- > >> If you want to report a vulnerability issue on Symfony, please read the > >> procedure on http://symfony.com/security > >> > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "symfony developers" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to > >> [email protected]<javascript:> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected] <javascript:> > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-devs?hl=en > >> --- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "Symfony developers" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > >> an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >> > >> > > > > -- > > Liip AG // Agile Web Development // T +41 26 422 25 11 > > CH-1700 Fribourg // PGP 0xA581808B // www.liip.ch > > > > -- > > -- > > If you want to report a vulnerability issue on Symfony, please read the > procedure on http://symfony.com/security > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "symfony developers" group. > > To post to this group, send email to > > [email protected]<javascript:> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected] <javascript:> > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-devs?hl=en > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Symfony developers" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > -- -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on Symfony, please read the procedure on http://symfony.com/security You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "symfony developers" group. 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