I've never been a big fan of forums, I think they split thing up to much (all 
the boards with subboards, etc).
So I've used the mailing-list a lot. Nice immediate updates of everything, plus 
you only need one client for all lists out there.

So when we're choosing between A and B, I would go with A (mailing-list).


I do think Discourse looks very promising. I think it combines many of pros of 
both a forum and mailing-list. So in favour of "staying up-to-date" and 
"bringing the community together", I would say ditch both the forum and 
mailing-list, and replace them with Discourse.

I also think a dedicated StackOverflow site would be a good idea. The community 
(including me) is already using StackOverflow, because it's great for what it 
solves. I know it's a 3rd party service (so not an option for the problem being 
addressed), but I do want to mention that I think StackOverflow and Discourse 
would compliment eachother very nicely (StackOverflow for Q/A, Discourse for 
other discussions).

-- 
Jasper N. Brouwer



On 26-03-2013, at 07:52, Fabien Potencier <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Unfortunately and for no reasons, the Symfony2 mailing-list is gone for the 
> second time in a very short period of time. It happened some weeks ago and I 
> was not able to contact anyone about the issue. The mailing-list came back 
> and still not a single email from Google about what happened.
> 
> So, I think it's time to move on. We cannot be hostages of Google for our 
> support and our knowledge base. There are several options to replace the 
> Google mailing-lists and I want to get your opinion on the best one to choose 
> before doing anything (the decision will probably also impact all my other 
> mailing-lists on Google - Swiftmailer, Silex, Twig, ...):
> 
> * A - Migrate all the discussions on the Symfony forum 
> (forum.symfony-project.org).
> 
>  * Pros: it's online since 2005, it has a massive amount of registered 
> people, we already have a big archive of knowledge there, it's written with 
> phpBB (which uses Symfony and several core team members are also part of the 
> Symfony community), it allows us to unify the community, which is split right 
> now.
> 
>  * Cons: Some people don't like forums because they want everything to happen 
> in an email client (but it might be possible to use phpBB that way too).
> 
> * B - Host our own mailing-list software and provide the same kind of service 
> as Google Groups
> 
>  * Pros: The disruption won't be big with what we have now.
> 
>  * Cons: The community will still be split in two, only because of some 
> preferences. What kind of software to use? All of them seems old and 
> outdated. The only one that looks great is Lamson (http://lamsonproject.org/).
> 
> * C - Use a more "modern" approach to discussions like the recently released 
> Discourse software (http://www.discourse.org/) -- which is Open-Source.
> 
> Of course, relying on a third-party is not an option anymore. So, stack 
> overflow or any other forum/mailing-list providers are not an option.
> 
> jQuery chose the first option (A) some time ago and they don't seem to regret 
> it. Drupal also uses a forum and no mailing-list as far as I know. So, that 
> works.
> 
> Zend Framework and many other Open-Source projects hosts their own 
> mailing-lists.
> 
> My personal preference is either A or B without a clear winner. A is probably 
> better for the community, B is probably less disruptive.
> 
> What do you want us to do?
> 
> Cheers,
> Fabien

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