Lukas Kahwe Smith schrieb: > Georg Gell wrote: > > Well in order to really leverage the benefits from agile development, > one must really build a trust relationship with the client. Otherwise > you do not benefit from throwing out things not deemed useful during > prototyping etc. All in all the entire fixed price model does not really > apply anymore.
Do you really have many clients that pay you per hour just trusting you? > Basically you define a budget, you define an initial scope and you keep > your client in the loop. Its the PM's just to ensure that the must > have's will always fit in the budget, even as you add new features and > throw out others. I suggest keeping a wiki that is updated immediately > as the specs evolve. Just wondering how many projects exist that have more budget than just for the bare must-haves? I should definitely get a dot com bubble company as a client ;-) > One key thing to state in the contract and make very clear from the > start is that client participation is key to the quality of the results. > This means that the client has to budget much higher costs on his side, > since he has to make sure that all the relevant people have sufficient > amount of time to provide feedback. Good point, what are the arguments to make my client want to have more budget on his side? They are all making overtime already. > As a result the overall turnover for you is much reduced with agile > development. The project is usually shorter, client involvement means > less work for you. On the up side you obviously deliver faster, making > the chances better that your client will rake in nice profits that he > will probably like to reinvest partially into your services. Oh and if > you are not willing to provide the services, others will. So you dont > really have a choice these days. *I* can see it's advantages and *I* am willing to provide this service, but nobody wants it (I must admit they are engineering and production companies, used to have the basic requirements before they start working) regards Georg --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "symfony users" group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
