I am not yet enought good in Symfony to update plugins :) I think it
should be list of about 20 the most important plugins in symfony and
they should be updated in each new version of Symfony.



On 19 Wrz, 11:45, Alexandru-Emil Lupu <gang.al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well the symfony plugins part is the maintainer / creator job to keep it
> updated. But as there is no motivational thing involved (money or need to
> use it in sf 1.2 or something else that don't cross my mind atm ), i do not
> think the maintainer will do it. Instead, you might create an account on SF
> website, and become contributor to desired plugin, and create a sf1.2
> compatible version. This way, you'll know that there is a SF1.2 plugin
> available.
> Instead of 
> sfShoppingCartPlugin<http://www.symfony-project.org/plugins/sfShoppingCartPlugin>,
> you might wanna check sfShop project (google it). It has a "shoping cart"
> plugin and is written in 1.2 (if i recall right).
>
> Alecs
>
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 11:07 AM, mini_alexander <aoohra...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Symfony has the best documentation which I have ever seen. Jobeet
> > tutorial is very long but in this tutorial is almost everything - all
> > important things.
> > For me the worst thing in Symfony are plugins. Many good plugins are
> > old - for example shopping cart:
> >http://www.symfony-project.org/plugins/sfShoppingCartPlugin
> > This shopping cart is for symfony 1.0 and we now have symfony 1.2 and
> > soon 1.3. And there is many that plugins. I would like to see plugins
> > in compatybile version with the newest version of symfony.
>
> > On 19 Wrz, 07:10, Lukas Kahwe Smith <m...@pooteeweet.org> wrote:
> > > On 19.09.2009, at 06:36, Jake Barnes <lkrub...@geocities.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Sep 18, 3:36 pm, Lukas Kahwe Smith <m...@pooteeweet.org> wrote:
> > > >> On 18.09.2009, at 21:27, bghost wrote:
>
> > > >>> I think that the attempt of putting the entire WEB form within the
> > > >>> class
> > > >>> only unnecessarily complicate such a simple thing such is form
> > > >>> handling.
> > > >>> That's just forcing WEB developers to learn how to make simple
> > > >>> things
> > > >>> on the complicated way.
>
> > > >> i think this is a valid criticism. there is a clear shift away from
> > > >> having just some html/css/js guru do the templates back in symfony
> > > >> 1.0
> > > >> towards requiring a symfony expert to also handle the templates, but
> > > >> that person lacks the html/css/js guru knowhow. the pay off is
> > > >> however
> > > >> that a symfony expert can now do a lot more if he just sits down with
> > > >> the html/css/js guru to create the required widgets in pair
> > > >> programming. the quality of the site should also increase since reuse
> > > >> is done more on the widget side of things but more importantly you
> > > >> start to bring everything data related together in the models, so you
> > > >> have a single definitive source.
>
> > > >> so what does it all mean? teach your symfony experts some more html/
> > > >> css/js, teach your html/css/js guru some symfony .. or better yet ..
> > > >> facilitate paired programming .. and you should be off producing high
> > > >> quality more maintainable sites in less time .. but the old workflow
> > > >> of clear work separation isnt going to cut it anymore. then again,
> > > >> you
> > > >> can still keep the spirit of 1.0 in 1.2 i guess ..
>
> > > > You can still get the 1.0 spirit, though paired programming is not the
> > > > way to do it. And yes, for some projects, it is very important that
> > > > the designers have access to all of the HTML, including that in the
> > > > forms. Some design lead projects suffer badly from the default forms
> > > > setup in Symfony 1.2.
>
> > > err i was saying 1.2 projectscan benefit from paired programming while
> > > 1.0 projects allow for a clear separation. though that is not to say
> > > that paired programming even has its place there.
>
> > > > What's needed is a plugin that can auto-generate the CRUD forms in
> > > > nearly pure HTML, with PHP commands only handling the values that
> > > > appear in the inputs. That way, depending on the project, you could
> > > > either work with the default forms generated by Symfony, or switch
> > > > over to a system that is much more open for designers.
>
> > > > If I get some time later this year, I hope to work on such a plugin.
>
> > > sure that could be a useful addition. maybe eith some magic comments
> > > there could even be the possibility to update or at least alert of
> > > inconsistencies.
>
> > > Regards,
> > > Lukas
>
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