A generic installer would be something like:

- System checks environment requirements, the usual: php version,
apache version, mod rewrite, gd (plugins may add more requirements)
- User enter database name, user, password
- System creates necessary database structures (table, etc, etc)
- System check that cache, log, and upload folder are writable
(plugins may register additional folder)

I'm sure there'll be a couple more, but they would still be pretty generic.

Yes, a Symfony app can be more specialised and more complex, but I'd
say most Symfony apps we develop can use such generic installer almost
out of the box. Just like so many projects have benefited from
sfGuardPlugin, even though not necessarily that ALL projects use
sfGuardPlugin.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Gareth McCumskey <gmccums...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No it wouldn't. Wordpress is a CRM system at its heart and thats really all
> its there for. symfony is much lower level than that and you cannot have a
> generic installer created for it because there are far too many possible
> variables to consider and so many different ways you can develop an
> application with symfony that a single installer would never be able to meet
> all the demands of the developers.
>
> THATS why symfony is popular, because it isn't a CRM application, and it
> allows you to do far more the way you want for your own needs, including how
> you want to deploy it.
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Sid Bachtiar <sid.bacht...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > sf provides all the parts to make installers - you just need to glue 'em
>> > together.
>>
>> Correct! And it would make it easier to spread Symfony to the mass if
>> it has a generic installer built in.
>>
>> I know, I know, what don't I build it myself? I'd like to, but at the
>> moment I'm pretty stretched out.
>>
>> But it also good to talk about it first, someone might points out why
>> this is difficult, etc, etc.
>>
>> A Symfony open source project called Siwapp (an invoicing system)
>> tried/tries/trying to have this kind of installer (www.siwapp.org).
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Sid
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:09 PM, david <da...@inspiredthinking.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Wordpress is an application, Symfony is a framework that you can use to
>> > build applications.
>> > sf provides all the parts to make installers - you just need to glue 'em
>> > together.
>> >
>> > On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:32:18 +0200, Jake Barnes <lkrub...@geocities.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Oct 5, 2:54 am, Eno <symb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> On Mon, 5 Oct 2009, Sid Bachtiar wrote:
>> >>> > I was trying to look something more for non-developer.
>> >>>
>> >>> > Let's say I developed a website then when I give the source code to
>> >>> > my
>> >>> > client (who isn't computer illiterate, but is not familiar with
>> >>> > Symfony); at the moment I'll have to teach them a lot of things on
>> >>> > how
>> >>> > to install/deploy, symfony commands (clear cache), how to change
>> >>> > database settings, and so on.
>> >>>
>> >>> Frankly, what you're asking makes no sense. Deploying a web site is
>> >>> not
>> >>> something you can just give to someone who is not technical.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> One of the big weaknesses of Symfony is that it can not be deployed as
>> >> easily as WordPress. The fact that non-technical people have an easy
>> >> time installing WordPress gives WordPress much of its presence on the
>> >> web scene.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
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