On 8 March 2012 18:25, Aaron Meurer <asmeu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This looks like a good start.  Did you think about ways that some of
> these ideas can be used in SymPy Live too?
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Bharath M R <catchmrbhar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I am Bharath M R, a student of Electrical Engineering at IIT Madras.
>> I would like to apply for the building the gamma.sympy.org site. I would
>> like to
>> implement the following things as part of the project.
>>
>> 1)Basic parsing
>> Something like solve x**2==1, integrate x**2 will be parsed and interpreted.
>> Doing something like wolphram alpha would require a lot of ideas from
>> natural language processing which I am not familiar with.
>
> This is something that can be improved upon over time.  The important
> thing here is to start with a good framework in SymPy to build upon,
> so we can easily extend it with new rules.
>
> And no matter how much you implement, it will always be a heuristic.
> We just want it to catch the common case.  We can do things like
> provide a feedback button for mis-interpreted input, so we can get an
> idea of what doesn't work and where things need to be improved the
> most.
>
>>
>> 2) An incremental search for functions in symPy
>> Its very important for a person to get to know the particular function he
>> wants to use. This will be implemented using ajax calls to the sphinx
>> documentation database.This will be similar to search in scilab /
>> mathematica.
>
> Additionally, there should be links throughout the interface to the
> relevant Sphinx documentation for the various functions used (similar
> to in WolframAlpha).
>
>>
>> 3) A lyx/ Mathematica styled input.
>> This greedily converts the expressions into latex symbols, so that the user
>> knows what he is actually computing. We can also add a set of symbols for
>> summation, integrals, differentiation as a bottom bar. The input will look
>> like latex input to the user, while we convert the expressions into required
>> symPy functions in the backend.
>
> How did you plan to implement this?  For now, the way that I know to
> do it is to first compute the whole expression to SymPy, then call
> latex() on it, and parse the latex with MathJax.  That is what happens
> at SymPy Live.  It sounds like you want something that lets you type
> LaTeX styled math on the fly, which basically amounts to an equation
> editor.
>
>>
>> 4)Matplotlib for plotting
>> We plot the expressions, if it is plottable just as Wolphram Alpha by
>> default.
>
> The app engine now supports numpy, so this should be doable (I hope).
> Our matplotlib plotting engine is still in its infant stages (for now,
> it only lives at https://github.com/sympy/sympy/pull/673), but it
> should grow.  Hopefully we will get another project that will improve
> it.  You could also spend some time of this project working on it,
> though obviously it would be better if most of the time were spent
> doing the other things.
I am not certain but I think that matplotlib includes some C code and
so it won't work on GAE. But the new module can easily be extended
with other backends like Google Chart API.

Also there are some less used matplotlib backends that do not need
compilation (pure python)
http://old.nabble.com/Pure-python-matplotlib-for-Google-App-Engine-td32721389.html
>
>>
>> 5)Ipython like notebook.
>> I think it is possible to port the Ipython notebook according to this
>> discussion(https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/sage-notebook/re2bUt4vCxA).
>> But the time it takes to port is not very fixed. I want to know whether I am
>> overreaching by including it.
>
> Even without the notebook, we should use IPython itself in SymPy Live
> (http://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=2645), if that's
> possible.  That will give us things like better tab completion and
> access to IPython magic. My idea is that you should be able to click
> on a SymPy Gamma calculation and just get a little SymPy Live session,
> so the two projects are related.
>
>>
>> 5) Make the interface look beautiful with twitter bootstrap.
>
> +1.  I don't know anything about this specific library, but a
> beautiful, highly functional interface is almost as important as good
> functionality.
>
> Aaron Meurer
>
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