i want to evaluate this function . can you tell me which branch i need to
checkout ?

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Tom Bachmann <e_mc...@web.de> wrote:

> That could be true. The groebner algorithms actually use a minimal sparse
> representation internally. But running trigsimp_groebner on smallExpr for
> me hangs on "a * d_hat - b * c_hat" - (not even the conversion to sparse or
> reduction, yet) just a multiplication of (huge) polys.
>
> As I said, I'll run some timing tests to figure out the bottleneck. But
> I'm not sure this algorithm can work with such huge expressions. Even the
> "staircase" function (which just enumerates all monomials below a certain
> degree) takes ages (I am not sure why, yet. The dense representation does
> not seem to be a problem.)
>
>
> On 20.04.2012 08:53, Aaron Meurer wrote:
>
>> I just remembered something important (I'm not sure why I forgot about
>> it before).  It's going to be slow with multiple generators simply
>> because the polys are slow with multiple generators.  This is because
>> the recursive dense representation used in the polys is highly
>> inefficient for polynomials over many variables.  This is because as a
>> "dense" representation, it tends to waste a lot of space, and as a
>> "recursive" representation, many of the functions are literally
>> written recursively, which is expensive in Python (take dmp_mul for
>> example).
>>
>> So we really need to work toward a sparse representation in the polys
>> to start to get a real speedup here.
>>
>> Aaron Meurer
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:29 AM, Tom Bachmann<e_mc...@web.de>  wrote:
>>
>>> I tried the expressions from
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/**topic/sympy/3y6orHV2_4k/**discussion<https://groups.google.com/d/topic/sympy/3y6orHV2_4k/discussion>(see
>>>> the tarball linked to in the first post).  I just tried the small
>>>> expression with n=1, but it just hung on the reduction step.  Any
>>>> thoughts on how to make this faster? Those expressions would make good
>>>> stress tests for this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Well these expressions are *huge*. I will run some timing tests, but I
>>> think
>>> all parts of the algorithm will break down (i.e. become infeasible
>>> computationally) long before that length.
>>>
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