one quick question ..
how to set SYMPY_DEBUG=True ?

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Tom Bachmann <e_mc...@web.de> wrote:

> Absolutely!
>
> git pull 
> https://github.com/ness01/**sympy<https://github.com/ness01/sympy>trigsimp
>
> The function is called trigsimp_groebner. But please note that I only
> wrote it yesterday, so there are probably bugs. Also there is no real
> docstring (yet).
>
> Quick tips:
>
> - run with SYMPY_DEBUG=True in order to see what is happening / if it hangs
> - pass quick=True if it hangs at "minsolve: ..."
> - use hints=[...]. This really should be in the docstring. Basically put
> in in what you think the answer should involve. E.g.
> trigsimp_groebner(sin(x)*cos(**x)) does nothing. Passing hints=[sin(2*x)]
> works. Also hints=[2] does something similar (but is way more expensive).
> Try hints=[tan] to enable looking for tan expressions (only necessary if
> they are not in the input). hints=[(sin, x, y)] will try to use the
> sin(x+y)=sin(x)cos(y) + sin(y)cos(x) formula.
> - hyperbolic function simplification does not work, yet
>
> Hope this helps.
> Tom
>
>
> On 20.04.2012 09:23, gsagrawal wrote:
>
>> i want to evaluate this function . can you tell me which branch i need
>> to checkout ?
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Tom Bachmann <e_mc...@web.de
>> <mailto:e_mc...@web.de>> wrote:
>>
>>    That could be true. The groebner algorithms actually use a minimal
>>    sparse representation internally. But running trigsimp_groebner on
>>    smallExpr for me hangs on "a * d_hat - b * c_hat" - (not even the
>>    conversion to sparse or reduction, yet) just a multiplication of
>>    (huge) polys.
>>
>>    As I said, I'll run some timing tests to figure out the bottleneck.
>>    But I'm not sure this algorithm can work with such huge expressions.
>>    Even the "staircase" function (which just enumerates all monomials
>>    below a certain degree) takes ages (I am not sure why, yet. The
>>    dense representation does not seem to be a problem.)
>>
>>
>>    On 20.04.2012 08:53, Aaron Meurer wrote:
>>
>>        I just remembered something important (I'm not sure why I forgot
>>        about
>>        it before).  It's going to be slow with multiple generators simply
>>        because the polys are slow with multiple generators.  This is
>>        because
>>        the recursive dense representation used in the polys is highly
>>        inefficient for polynomials over many variables.  This is
>>        because as a
>>        "dense" representation, it tends to waste a lot of space, and as a
>>        "recursive" representation, many of the functions are literally
>>        written recursively, which is expensive in Python (take dmp_mul for
>>        example).
>>
>>        So we really need to work toward a sparse representation in the
>>        polys
>>        to start to get a real speedup here.
>>
>>        Aaron Meurer
>>
>>        On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:29 AM, Tom Bachmann<e_mc...@web.de
>>        <mailto:e_mc...@web.de>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>                I tried the expressions from
>>                https://groups.google.com/d/__**topic/sympy/3y6orHV2_4k/__
>> **discussion<https://groups.google.com/d/__topic/sympy/3y6orHV2_4k/__discussion>
>>
>>                <https://groups.google.com/d/**topic/sympy/3y6orHV2_4k/**
>> discussion<https://groups.google.com/d/topic/sympy/3y6orHV2_4k/discussion>
>> >
>>                (see
>>                the tarball linked to in the first post).  I just tried
>>                the small
>>                expression with n=1, but it just hung on the reduction
>>                step.  Any
>>                thoughts on how to make this faster? Those expressions
>>                would make good
>>                stress tests for this.
>>
>>
>>            Well these expressions are *huge*. I will run some timing
>>            tests, but I think
>>            all parts of the algorithm will break down (i.e. become
>>            infeasible
>>            computationally) long before that length.
>>
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