I'd consider this to be a bug. I'm sure a call to doit() was added in there to make Integral(x, x).diff(x) return just x, but it's clearly annoying.
I'm assuming you mean for q_i and z_i to mean that these things depend on i. One way would be to actually use a function. Unfortunately, there seem to be another bug: In [5]: z_i = Function('z')(i) In [6]: q_i = Function('q')(i) In [7]: a_k = Sum(-q_i*z_i/k,(i,1,m)) In [8]: print a_k.diff(z_i) 0 I opened https://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=3867 and https://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=3868 for these. Aaron Meurer On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Jeremy <lafl...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I am a new sympy user and am trying to work out a derivation using IPython3 > in a notebook. > > > I have an expression: > a_k = Sum(-q_i*z_i/k,(i,1,m)). > > I want a_k.diff(z_i), however the Sum gets evaluated and I get m*(otherwise > correct stuff), and of course the sum goes away. > > I thought that using Sum() instead of summation(), the expression would not > evaluate. I guess .diff() causes the expression to evaluate? Is there a way > around this problem? > > If it was this one expression I would just make temp = stuff_inside_sum and > .diff() that, but it is nested in yet another Sum(). Eg. phi = > Sum(a_k/x,(k,1,oo)). > > Any help would be appreciated, > Thanks! > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sympy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sympy+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to sympy@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sympy?hl=en-US. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sympy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sympy+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sympy@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sympy?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.