On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 at 23:32, Aaron Meurer <asmeu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 4:20 PM Oscar Benjamin > <oscar.j.benja...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Thanks Aaron for sorting this. > > > > I've removed the ODE systems idea from the ideas page as it has been > > mostly sorted out by Milan Jolly last year. There is still work to do > > but it is not such a high priority after Milan's work. > > > > The change to 175hrs which is basically 5 actual weeks which places > > quite significant limits on what could be achieved. We should think > > about how to break up a lot of these ideas and make them more > > manageable. For example the highest priority ideas are probably things > > like the Risch algorithm, Cylindrical Algebraic Decomposition, Karr > > etc. Each of those is way beyond 5 weeks though - we shouldn't bother > > listing them there unless we can distil the idea down to more > > carefully described steps that are actually achievable. > > Yes, although I would argue that that has already been a problem. We > haven't had much interest in these problems because they are too > unapproachable. I don't know if they can be split into smaller > problems, and if doing so would make them more approachable (there's > also the issue that they are mathematically hard).
I think that these problems would be more approachable if there was clear documentation explaining: 1. What is already implemented 2. What should ideally be implemented 3. What the next steps should be 4. Where to find more information The problem is when we have something like the Risch algorithm that is partially implemented but it is difficult for any newcomer to understand what should actually be done to take it further. Listing the idea of "implementing the algorithm" in the GSOC page isn't very helpful if it doesn't represent any manageable piece of work. > > I think that it would be good to move all of these ideas to a page > > like "old ideas" and say that if anyone wants to rejuvenate the idea > > then it should be updated and reframed in a way that is suitable to > > the new GSOC arrangement before being moved to the new ideas page. > > Bigger goals like the Risch algorithm should be moved to something > > like a "big ideas" page. Any ideas listed for GSOC need to be specific > > and achievable. Open ended ideas should go somewhere else I think. > > Feel free to refactor the page however you see fit. I deleted the old > years pages because they were only confusing. Thanks for doing that. I guess what I'm saying is that we shouldn't allow any ideas to "roll over" from one year to another. I think that the ideas page should always be a page of up to date fresh proposals presented by currently available mentors. Or perhaps there should be a separation where there is a page of general "ideas" and then another page of off the shelf "projects" that are suitable for the GSOC timeline. Either way if we want to make the most of GSOC then I think we could do better by giving better guidance to students. Oscar -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sympy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sympy+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sympy/CAHVvXxSDX1r%2BR7zyU3uz2aa7X%2BRLy_hsXAyQagKrJCeQdkS3_A%40mail.gmail.com.
