>> Thank you VERY much for all your wonderful comments, really helpful.

OH NO. Thank you! so VERY, VERY much for spending our time so much more
freely than your own. That's what we're here for.  [BTW, those comments
really could have helped you; far more than you apparently realize.]

The next time you'd like a number of free simultaneous consultations, you
might consider framing the question(s) so that people coming cold to a new
situation have an easier time understanding the problem(s)... and you might
do that after really trying to solve the problem, or at least just tackle
the basics. At least supply some code; that would both show the effort and
further describe, in much more detail, what the goal is and what any
ancillary issues may be. And if it would be too embarrassing to submit code,
that's a good hint that you need to do more work. (At least in those cases
you realize it. When venturing into new areas, we often don't even know
enough to be embarrassed--in which case, luckily enough, it's that much less
embarrassing anyway.) Even if a request is totally off base, technical forum
participants are much more likely to (try to) help, if they can see that
some real effort was put into it---we love doing other people's work for
them.

Re-reading your own message and editing it helps a lot too. When I'm deep
into a problem and still thinking in code, any prose (documentation, notes,
email) I write sounds quite adequate...  then if I come back to it after
not-that-much time away from coding, I can have a very hard time
understanding what the heck I just wrote. Imagine if it's someone else...

Of course, you can continue to do things this way... but you might get a lot
fewer answers, or commentary like this...   And before you get any huffier,
who might this message help? Me or you?  The "politics" of free support are
really often amazing. I've seen the age-old message to go RTFM received far
more gracefully on PAID support forums for PAID (and expensive) products
than for free and open source solutions.

Oh yeah... Customary technical mailing list/forum etiquette (for real
problems anyway) would be to share the solution, thus contributing back to
the people you so easily and cheaply requested help from. Instead of
declaring "SOLVED."  Now you left us on the edge of our seats!


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