On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Lloyd Hilaiel <[email protected]> wrote:

> What are the tradeoffs of dictating protocol and implementing support at
> the os level, vs a JavaScript api and leaving the proto decision up to an
> updatable app (plus implementing or promoting an awesome js carddav is lib)?


I'm not sure what "at the OS level" means in this context. We ship
a contacts app. That app should (somehow) implement carddav.

-Ekr


> Lloyd
>
> Eric Rescorla <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 5:41 AM, Lloyd Hilaiel <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > The difference is, users must have choice.  Sure we can support the big
> > guys, but we should also make it so little guys can build ffx support in
> an
> > absolutely seamless manner and directly compete.
> >
> > This is an area where we can give the market a fighting chance to do one
> > thing, do it extremely well, and win the hearts of users away from large
> > silos.
> >
> > Why not contact sync by ffxos apps?  (Give the user a choice, feature the
> > most popular)
> >
>
> I'm all in favor of giving users a choice, but I'm not sure how
> much there is to decide.
>
> There are standardized technologies for both calendar sync and
> contact sync (CalDAV and CardDAV) respectively. As far as
> I can tell, both Apple and Google support both.
>
> https://support.google.com/mail/answer/2753077?hl=en
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3407527?start=0&tstart=0
>
> Assuming that's correct, if we just do CardDAV we should be
> mostly done
>
> -Ekr
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Mark Finkle <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > > On Sep 3, 2013, at 5:11 AM, Christophe Brocas <
> > [email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > > Hello
> > > >
> > > > Sync has always been Firefox oriented and so it put the focus on
> > syncing
> > > > booksmarks/tabs/passwords informations.
> > > >
> > > > But with the move to Mobile with FirefoxOS, I think users will first
> > want
> > > > to
> > > > sync their contacts and calendar between their mobile/PC/tablet.
> > Because it
> > > > is
> > > > what first matter on a phone.
> > > >
> >
> > > We should probably provide our own contact sync service eventually, but
> > in
> > > the spirit of "not building another silo", what about syncing to other
> > > contact service providers (Google, Yahoo, Facebook, etc)?
> >
> > > Maybe we should support third-party contact sync before we build our
> own.
> > > When we launch support for contact sync, exactly 0 zero users will have
> > > pre-existing contacts in the Firefox OS contact syncing service, which
> > makes
> > > the value prop less compelling. However, I suspect at least some users
> > will
> > > have pre-existing contacts at these other providers, so supporting
> > contact
> > > sync with them is a compelling value prop.
> >
> > I can't help feeling a bit sad about this plan though. We use FirefoxOS
> to
> > give people a great entry platform to the mobile internet, then we
> > introduce them to Google or Facebook and proceed to get them locked into
> > those vendors.
> >
> > I can see the rationale of the plan: If you want Sync, then you must have
> > more than just your phone. If you have more than just a phone, you
> probably
> > already have your data locked into a vendor.
> >
> > Unless these people, like many others, mistakenly see Sync is a way to
> > backup their contacts and other data.
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