Hi,

Below is the first draft for the shepherding document for draft-ietf-syslog-transport-tls-04.txt. Please review and send feedback to the list.

All of this is pending final reviews of the latest document submitted.

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Having passed a WG Last Call, draft-ietf-syslog-transport-tls-04.txt is ready for AD review.

[Area] SECURITY
[WG]   syslog
[I-D]  draft-ietf-syslog-transport-tls-04.txt
[Qver] draft-ietf-proto-wgchair-doc-shepherding-08.txt
[Shep] Chris Lonvick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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   (1.a)  Who is the Document Shepherd for this document?  Has the
          Document Shepherd personally reviewed this version of the
          document and, in particular, does he or she believe this
          version is ready for forwarding to the IESG for publication?
Chris Lonvick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Yes; I believe that the document is ready for publication.
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   (1.b)  Has the document had adequate review both from key WG members
          and from key non-WG members?  Does the Document Shepherd have
          any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that
          have been performed?

Adequate review has occurred from WG members, and it has been reviewed
by others.  The reviews of the WG Last Call for this document (-03
version) may be found here:

Bert Wijnen's review (not a member of the WG mailing list)
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/syslog/current/msg01244.html

John Calcote's review
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/syslog/current/msg01199.html

Other reviews of particular sections and concepts fill the WG mailing
list.  Of note is Eric Rescorla's review (of -02)
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/syslog/current/msg01100.html

The issues raised in these reviews have been discussed on the mailing
list and I am satisfied about the level of review.
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   (1.c)  Does the Document Shepherd have concerns that the document
          needs more review from a particular or broader perspective,
          e.g., security, operational complexity, someone familiar with
          AAA, internationalization or XML?

I have no concerns.
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   (1.d)  Does the Document Shepherd have any specific concerns or
          issues with this document that the Responsible Area Director
          and/or the IESG should be aware of?  For example, perhaps he
          or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or
          has concerns whether there really is a need for it.  In any
          event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated
          that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those
          concerns here.

There are no concerns about the technical merit of the document.
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   (1.e)  How solid is the WG consensus behind this document?  Does it
          represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with
          others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and
          agree with it?

There is strong consensus to publish this document.
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   (1.f)  Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme
          discontent?  If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in
          separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director.  (It
          should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is
          entered into the ID Tracker.)

No appeals have been threatened.
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   (1.g)  Has the Document Shepherd personally verified that the
          document satisfies all ID nits?  (See
          http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html and
          http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits/).  Boilerplate checks are
          not enough; this check needs to be thorough.  Has the document
          met all formal review criteria it needs to, such as the MIB
          Doctor, media type and URI type reviews?

XXX - Let's see what --04 looks like - XXX
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   (1.h)  Has the document split its references into normative and
          informative?  Are there normative references to documents that
          are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear
          state?  If such normative references exist, what is the
          strategy for their completion?  Are there normative references
          that are downward references, as described in [RFC3967]?  If
          so, list these downward references to support the Area
          Director in the Last Call procedure for them [RFC3967].

The references are split into normative and informational references.
The document is dependant upon draft-ietf-syslog-transport-udp-08.txt
and draft-ietf-syslog-protocol-18.txt which are being submitted
along with this document.
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   (1.i)  Has the Document Shepherd verified that the document IANA
          consideration section exists and is consistent with the body
          of the document?  If the document specifies protocol
          extensions, are reservations requested in appropriate IANA
          registries?  Are the IANA registries clearly identified?  If
          the document creates a new registry, does it define the
          proposed initial contents of the registry and an allocation
          procedure for future registrations?  Does it suggested a
          reasonable name for the new registry?  See
          [I-D.narten-iana-considerations-rfc2434bis].  If the document
          describes an Expert Review process has Shepherd conferred with
          the Responsible Area Director so that the IESG can appoint the
          needed Expert during the IESG Evaluation?

The document IANA section is complete and the requested registries are
clearly marked.
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   (1.j)  Has the Document Shepherd verified that sections of the
          document that are written in a formal language, such as XML
          code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc., validate correctly in
          an automated checker?

The ABNF in the document has been verified through
 http://www.apps.ietf.org/abnf.html
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   (1.k)  The IESG approval announcement includes a Document
          Announcement Write-Up.  Please provide such a Document
          Announcement Writeup?  Recent examples can be found in the
          "Action" announcements for approved documents.  The approval
          announcement contains the following sections:

          Technical Summary
             Relevant content can frequently be found in the abstract
             and/or introduction of the document.  If not, this may be
             an indication that there are deficiencies in the abstract
             or introduction.

   This document describes the use of Transport Layer Security (TLS) to
   provide a secure connection for the transport of syslog messages.
   This document describes the security threats to Syslog and how TLS
   can be used to counter such threats.

          Working Group Summary
             Was there anything in WG process that is worth noting?  For
             example, was there controversy about particular points or
             were there decisions where the consensus was particularly
             rough?

There was controversy around the IPR statement from Huawei from this document. The Working Group examined the issue and came to consensus that the statement would be accepted.

There was controversy around the use of a version number within the payload. Since this implementation is close to the fire&forget model of traditional syslog/udp, no signalling of errors from the receiver will occur. There was a concern on the mailing list that if the method of inserting the payload into the transport were to change in the future, the recipient may not be able to parse the information. Hence the WG decided upon a version number at the start of the payload. The WG consensus at this time is to have a version number as a field in the payload.

There was some controversy around the use of a special character to denote
the end of the payload, or a counter at the start of the payload to indicate the length of the payload. The Working Group has consent that a counter is the best mechanism.


          Document Quality
             Are there existing implementations of the protocol?  Have a
             significant number of vendors indicated their plan to
             implement the specification?  Are there any reviewers that
             merit special mention as having done a thorough review,
             e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a
             conclusion that the document had no substantive issues?  If
             there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review,
             what was its course (briefly)?  In the case of a Media Type
             review, on what date was the request posted?

This protocol has very similar characteristics to implementations of syslog over ssl that are available at this time. The author of that implementation has indicated that he will make changes to conform to this specification. No vendors have announced that they will utilize this protocol. Some vendors have indicated interest in supporting this document.
The above named reviewers did an outstanding and thorough job.


          Personnel
             Who is the Document Shepherd for this document?  Who is the
             Responsible Area Director?
[Area] SECURITY
[WG]   syslog
[I-D]  draft-ietf-syslog-transport-tls-04v.txt
[Qver] draft-ietf-proto-wgchair-doc-shepherding-08.txt
[Shep] Chris Lonvick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[AD] Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ===

Thanks,
Chris

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