Am 24.01.2014 18:43, schrieb Lennart Poettering:
> On Fri, 24.01.14 17:10, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote:
> 
>>
>> 'Twas brillig, and Tom Horsley at 24/01/14 15:44 did gyre and gimble:
>>>> However, something like that can never be the default, we need to give
>>>> services the chance to shut down cleanly and in the right order.
>>>
>>> I didn't ask for any change to any default, I just asked for
>>> users to be able to make the shutdown process proceed when
>>> they have more information than systemd has about the chances
>>> of success of some random stop job.
>>>
>>> Without that, what you *will* get is people pulling the
>>> power plug which has a vastly greater chance of screwing up
>>> the system than not waiting for a single stop job.
>>
>> Perhaps just displaying the timeout would be useful here.
> 
> We do that. Michal's "eye of sauron" animation is shown as soon as
> something blocks too long, and the name of the unit we are waiting for
> is shown.

but there is nothing saying how long the timeout remains
"displaying the timeout" means a value in seconds

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