Op 25 jan. 2014, om 15:06 heeft Colin Guthrie <gm...@colin.guthr.ie> het volgende geschreven:
> 'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 24/01/14 17:53 did gyre and gimble: >> On Fri, 24.01.14 18:45, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: >> >>>>>>> However, something like that can never be the default, we need to give >>>>>>> services the chance to shut down cleanly and in the right order. >>>>>> >>>>>> I didn't ask for any change to any default, I just asked for >>>>>> users to be able to make the shutdown process proceed when >>>>>> they have more information than systemd has about the chances >>>>>> of success of some random stop job. >>>>>> >>>>>> Without that, what you *will* get is people pulling the >>>>>> power plug which has a vastly greater chance of screwing up >>>>>> the system than not waiting for a single stop job. >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps just displaying the timeout would be useful here. >>>> >>>> We do that. Michal's "eye of sauron" animation is shown as soon as >>>> something blocks too long, and the name of the unit we are waiting for >>>> is shown. >>> >>> but there is nothing saying how long the timeout remains >>> "displaying the timeout" means a value in seconds >> >> That delay is set to 5s. > > What was meant here was that the *user* is not shown for how long the > "cylon" animation will play before systemd gives up and gets aggressive. > > So there is a 5s timeout before displaying that, but all it does is tell > you how many jobs are waiting and not how long it's going to wait for them. > > If the user sits and watches that animation for 20s they'll likely think > "ahh well this is stuck" and yank the cord, not knowing that things will > be done cleanly if they just wait another 10s. > > If we displayed a timeout clock here too, users would be more willing to > wait. To make matters worse, the cylon eye isn't displayed when you boot with 'quiet' in your kernel command line. regards, Koen _______________________________________________ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
