On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 09:53:28AM +0300, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
> В Thu, 12 Feb 2015 15:25:08 +0100
> Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbys...@in.waw.pl> пишет:
> 
> > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 12:52:00PM +0000, Rauta, Alin wrote:
> > > > Yes, but the updates need to be done for all links and I'm not sure 
> > > > adding this is a good thing.
> > > > I'm now having 64 links on the switch and I need the failure detection 
> > > > in networkd to be quite fast because however even now it's probably 
> > > > slower due to evaluating dynamically the BindCarrier strings when 
> > > > comparing this with the previous solution with an UFD group monitoring 
> > > > some interfaces and with some internal counters knowing exactly when to 
> > > > issue "link_down" for an interface. So adding "bound_by" and "bound_to" 
> > > > makes the solution even slower.
> > > 
> > > > How many times per second will you be avaluating this?
> > > Each time an event happens: a link appears, disappears, changes flags or 
> > > names. 
> > Yes, I know the causes. I'm asking how often they can realisticly occur.
> > 
> 
> You misunderstand. It is not how often they occur but how fast reaction
> is. When (final) uplink goes down we want to bring dependent interfaces
> down as soon as possible.
Well... I don't think any string processing inside of networkd is going to
have a measurable impact. Things like process scheduling are always going to
trump that.

Not that I'm opposed to making the implementation computationally
faster. Just that reaction speed is a bad justification. The code should
be simple and clear, this is more important.

> > > > Besides this, having only one function 
> > > > "sd_network_link_get_carrier_bound_to" makes also sense because only 
> > > > the behavior of "bond_to" links is controlled by this feature. 
> > > > "bound_by" means almost nothing for an interface. A tool like 
> > > > "networkctl" may take into account to display only the "bound_to" links 
> > > > because that's what's relevant. The fact that "networkctl" displays 
> > > > both "bound_to" and "bound_by" it's a good thing, but it doesn't mean 
> > > > each tool should do that.
> > > 
> > > > If a link goes down, isn't the "bound_by" list useful to look at links 
> > > > which need to be checked and potentiallly brought down?
> > > It can be useful, that's why "networkctl" has the updates, but are 
> > > talking about the showing functionality or about the run-time "up-down" 
> > > game between interfaces ?
> > 
> > The latter.

Zbyszek
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