On 05/21/2015 03:19 PM, Colin Walters wrote:
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015, at 10:02 AM, Martin Pitt wrote:
IMHO subvolumes, like hard disk partitions, are something that the
administrator of a host should create deliberately only. Automatically
created ones just create confusion about "why the heck can't I remove
that directory".. It's roughly equivalent of some random package
messing with your partitions and/or fstab.

So if we could somehow make this conditional on "running on real
iron", that would be a good compromise IMHO.
I also agree with this.

Real or not makes no difference

systemd should not be creating subvolumes et all or atleast there should be a system wide option to disable it altogether and that option should be disabled by default upstream.

This breaks btrfs setup/administrations on host, breaks tools etc. so perhaps just best to get a second opinion with upstream btrfs community and get their opinion of having core/base component creating subvolumes on their own is the *smart* thing to do and see if their words are enough to change Lennart's mind about this.

JBG



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