The problem is that I'd like to get all of the same features out of systemd as 
I did with SysV. I don't see how, in this instance, I'd be able to get an 
accurate status of my service. I also want to be able to stop the service with 
the same unit file. I guess to do this I could just use the 
'RemainAfterExit=yes' but then I don't think I have the ability to get an 
accurate status from systemd.

> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 06:25:43 +0300
> From: arvidj...@gmail.com
> To: ljkimme...@hotmail.com
> CC: graw...@gmail.com; systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] Complicated SysVInit Migration
> 
> В Thu, 30 Jul 2015 16:53:43 -0500
> Lesley Kimmel <ljkimme...@hotmail.com> пишет:
> 
> > I can't really change anything about the way that the Node Manager does 
> > it's job. That all takes place outside of systemd. If I used the PIDFile 
> > option in the original systemd service (executing the WLST process), let's 
> > call this weblogic.service, and the PIDFile pointed to the PID file created 
> > by the final Java process, would that work or does the process that I'm 
> > ultimately starting have to descend directly from whatever it is that the 
> > unit file executes?
> 
> Process has to be part of cgroup of original systemd service; and for
> all practical purposes this means it has to be direct descendant of one
> of ExecStart* commands. There is no systemd API to move processes
> between cgroups.
> 
> What exactly is wrong in how it behaves currently? It is no worse
> than it was before, with sysvinit, right? Do you observe any problems?  
> 
> > 
> > Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 23:47:03 +0300
> > Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] Complicated SysVInit Migration
> > From: graw...@gmail.com
> > To: ljkimme...@hotmail.com
> > CC: systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> > 
> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 9:40 PM, Lesley Kimmel <ljkimme...@hotmail.com> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > All;
> > 
> > I'm struggling with figuring out how to migrate some SysVInit scripts to 
> > systemd. Specifically, this service launches WebLogic Managed Server (Java) 
> > instances Let me describe the process flow of my current service to you:
> > 
> > -The init service/script launches a Java process called WLST which executes 
> > a simple script
> > -This WLST process connects to an already running Java process called the 
> > Node Manager and issues a start command for the application server it 
> > wishes to start
> > -The Node Manager process executes a shell script as a subprocess. This 
> > shell script sets up a bunch of environment variables, etc.
> > -Ultimately the shell script launches a Java process which is a child of 
> > the shell script.
> > -When this Java process reports itself as running, the initial WLST Java 
> > process exits.
> > -In the end the actual service/process that we started, and want to manage, 
> > is actually the GRANDCHILD of a completely separate process from the 
> > initial Java process that systemd launched. How, would systemd track that 
> > process?
> > 
> > systemd would see it as an extra process belonging to NodeManager.service, 
> > nothing more.
> > If you want systemd to track it as an independent service, go back to step 
> > #3 (where the Node Manager executes a shell script), and make that shell 
> > script merely run "systemctl start ..." instead of creating the new 
> > instance directly. (Make a template foo@.service unit for the WLMS 
> > instances.)
> 
                                          
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