On Sat, 07 Apr 2001 15:27:06 +0100, you wrote:

>on 7/4/01 12:03 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> I have no trouble with Darrell (or anyone) quoting whatever the heck they want
>> at the end of their posts. I do, however, think that Darrell's presentation is
>> skirting the bounds of acceptability. When you use colored type, boldface it,
>> underline it and run it with a font that's a couple of point sizes bigger than
>> the post itself, it becomes the internet equivalent of yelling. It's akin to
>> being harrassed by the Hare Krishan in an airport more than it transmits any
>> deep message.
>> 
>> gh
>I agree
>Randall Northam

that said, it goes a step further-
this has been said before, but bears repeating-
a great many of us on the list are using e-mail readers which
are not html-based.
So when somebody sends a message with all kinds of stuff embedded in
it like color changes, font size changes, bold, italics, and so-forth,
it comes across looking something like this:
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META content="text/html; charset=windows-1252" http-equiv=Content-Type>
<META content="MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=GENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Good morning and CONGRATULATIONS!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I assume you have received 
notification from my Auction Service regarding the two above referenced Post 
Cards on which you successfully bid on Ebay today.&nbsp; Thank you for your 
interest and your bids!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I just want to add to the 
payment and shipment information furnished by them, that I will mail both cards 
together, saving you one P&amp;H fee.&nbsp; Therefore, payment for both cards 
should be $6.00 plus $1.00 P&amp;H for a total of $7.00.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Have a nice 
weekend!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Sincerely, Paprlady</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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If you want to read the message which is contained inside all this stuff,
it's a big strain on the old eyes (yes, I hit 45 this year and my eyes are
already feelin' it- had to go to bifocaled lenses for the first time a few
months ago!).  Now that I think about, those of you that are using such
readers might not even see the code I'm talking about in the example pasted above!
Oh well...
The solution: I am TOLD (but am not using such software to have to try it myself)
that there is a check-mark box or toggle in the software options or preferences
to turn OFF the html code.
Of course that takes away your ability to output anything but straight
text, but it also means people on the receiving end won't get all those
command codes like in the message above.
TRY IT!!!!

Then you won't have any more complaints like GH's.

Personally, to attach quotes to your signature from the Bible, or from
Abraham Lincoln, or from Chairman Mao or Hugh Hefner or anywhere else, DOES help
convey some semblance of what's driving your life, so I have absolutely no
problem with display of a motto or slogan, just all the computer code gibberish
that often accompanies it.

P.S.-
I just found the command option inside Netscape, if you're using
Netscape-
in fact, it's powerful enough to automatically turn off the html code
for all outgoing messages going specifically to the t-and-f list, and
leave it on for everybody else as well as for all incoming messages!

Here's the instructions, as copied from the Netscape help menu:
(somebody else will have to look up a similar feature for Internet Explorer)

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Setting Message Formatting
Preferences

You can choose between a plain-text or
HTML composition window for creating mail
messages, and you can specify whether
recipients prefer to receive plain-text or
HTML formatted messages.

 1.From the Edit menu, choose Preferences.
    Then select Formatting from the Mail &
    Newsgroup Preferences category. 

 2.Choose whether you want to use HTML
    editor or the plain-text editor to compose
    your messages. 

 3.When you add a person or address card
    to your address book, you can specify
    whether that addressee should always
    receive messages in HTML formatting. If
    this information is unknown, choose one
    of options to specify how messages
    should be delivered. You can always
    override these settings through the
    Options panel of the Composition
    window. 

 4.Click OK. 

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RT

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