Hi. Fred Finke Here. Although I sympathize greatly with Harry and the rest of the Penn team, I fail to see how this unfortunate occurrence has degenerated and turned this list into a HS coach bashing situation. Please remember that this was an accomplished collegiate athlete that was obviously well coached, both in HS and in college. MANY HS coaches are well trained and experienced. I would venture to say that if any school has an accomplished vault program, more than likely the athletes are coached by an experienced coach or former vaulter, or at the very least part of a vault club that specializes in the vault. Most of the time (at least in Florida), the better vaulters are coached more through a club program or a VERY experienced coach at the school. I cannot thing of a school that has a 14'(average) vaulter with a beginner coaching them. JMHO.
Fred ******************************************************* Fred Finke, LDR Men's Coach Selection Coordinator --- O Men's Team Leader, World Cross, Morocco, 1998 -- <^_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- \/\ Visit me at: www.Coachnet.net ******************************************************* -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Prizy Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 4:57 PM To: Michael J. Roth Cc: T&F Listserve Subject: Re: t-and-f: RE: PV & Coaching A good example of how little thought or concern goes toward certification - and how our U.S. legal system can also work against good common sense - in Illinois last season, the Illinois High School Association caved in on a lawsuit threat from the family of a female T&F athlete and added girls PV AFTER the season started. While there are many male coaches, still, a vast majority of them never coached the PV. Luckily, most of the girls that came out were gymnast and knew how to fall like cats. However, the state champ - Elizabeth Boyle, Winnetka, Ill. (New Trier H.S.) - did go 12-6 and was only a junior, but received a lot of coaching from her uncle who is an accomplished boys coach at another Illinois h.s. "Michael J. Roth" wrote: > Trey > > Sadly HS coaches certification has nothing to do with the individual > sports they coach. They take a few courses on 1st aid & general > coaching. Priority always goes to a teacher in the district, which is > mandated by their union contracts. Good (certified) coaches continually > get screwed out of jobs because some teacher wants to pad his retirement > fund by raising his/her annual salary. The athlete always loses in this > situation. > > It would be nice if the NFHS (& NCAA) required all coaches to be > certified by the NGB of their sport or they cannot have the job, > regardless of experience. This would stop programs from hiring a coach > who has competed in 500 road races over other candidates. I think GWU > did this. > > Not holding my breath . . . > > MJR