"Actually, last week's ruling had no impact.  It had already been ruled
awhile back that athletes could be tested - the Supreme Court just extended
testing to the chess team and debate club last week."

I think the point to be culled from the fact that the "geeks" can now be tested
is an environmental and attitudinal one. People may be moving in the direction
of zero tolerance.
Regards,
Martin

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Ed Grant wrote:
>
> >  Actually, drugs don;t do that much for baseball players if you
> > except the home runs.
>
> Sorry, can't let this one stand.  Steroids could obviously be used to help
> speed recovery from injuries, and it you think about recovery time for a
> pitcher who has just been throwing 90+ mph fastballs for 110+ pitches,
> there should be a huge benefit.
>
> >It is still a game of skills rather than athleticism.
> >(Remember, Jim Thorpe was basically a flop at it).
>
> But there are an awful lot of people with tremendous skills working hard at
> trying to earn the millions of dollars available to the average MLB player.
> Thus, athleticism becomes a factor.
>
> >The major leagues today are quite inferior to the 50s and 60s when there
> were far
> >fewer teams and when baseball was still "King of the Hill" among teams
> sports.
>
> Baseball today is so far superior to baseball during the 60's that it's
> silly.
>
> >It is not only drugs that acount for all the home runs; it is also smaller
> ball parks,
>
> Ever check out the dimensions of Ebbets Field?  297 feet to right field.
> The Polo Grounds?  257 feet to right.
>
> Pac Bell runs 307' to right.
>
> You want to guess how many HRs Barry Bonds would have hit with those
> shorter distances?
>
> > the fact that no one cares any more about how often a
> > player strikes out; the two greatest home run hitters from a career view,
> > Aaron and Ruth, had very low strikout to home run ratios;
>
> But you know what?  That doesn't matter much.
>
> For example, while it's true that Bonds strikes out a higher rate per HR
> than Aaron (Aaron - 1.86 K/HR, Bonds - 2.23 K/HR), Bonds has made far fewer
> total outs per HR (Bonds - 10.0 outs/HR, Aaron 11.4 outs/HR).  And if you
> hate K's so much, remember that striking out is usually better than hitting
> into a double play (Aaron - hit into 328 career double plays; Bonds - has
> hit into 127 double plays).
>
> >   I also wonder what effect the recent Supreme Court ruling will have
> > on future testing.
>
> Actually, last week's ruling had no impact.  It had already been ruled
> awhile back that athletes could be tested - the Supreme Court just extended
> testing to the chess team and debate club last week.
>
> Phil

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Martin


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