Jonas, I don't think anyone is in disagreement that there should be wind limits for what is a record-worthy mark. However, that is an entirely different topic than the accuracy or relevance of the actual conversions, which is what most of this debate has centered around.
Furthermore, let me say that I am not questioning Jonas' work, per se. It looks to be as comprehensive as any other attempts at such, and I imagine Jonas is considered quite brilliant in the field. Having said that, I am bothered by how similar many aspects of this thread are to those involving Jon Entine (probably the most villified member in the history of the t-and-f list, for those who weren't around at the time): - the "defendant" is well respected within the field and quite knowledgable - real science is regularly referred to by the "defendant" - despite having done some of the most exhaustive research on the topic, it becomes apparent the "defendant" has, either by choice or by necessity, ignored large pools of data that do not fit the model - in each case, the model seems to be based on and rely on being applied to generalities, not individuals, yet the conclusions of it invariably get applied to ... you guessed it, individuals! - when given examples of where the model breaks down, no direct responses are forthcoming... Dan --- Jonas Mureika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To quote, well, me (from a journal article): > > "Americans Leonard Scott and William Snoddy have posted marks of 9.83s > (+7.1m/s) and 9.87s (+11.2m/s) respectively, yet neither has ever run > another such remarkable time. Using the corrections for world class > races, Snoddy's 9.87s would correct at least to a pedestrian 10.21s, > while Scott's clocking would round to about 10.12s..." > > That's why we should have correction techniques. It may not be seen as > fair to some, but it's probably just as fair as lumping a +2.0m/s Mexico > City race with a -4.0m/s Athens race.. or a +2.0m/s 9.78 WR with a > +0.1m/s 9.79WR. ===== http://AccountBiller.com - MyCalendar, D-Man, ReSearch, etc. http://Run-Down.com - 10,000 Running Links, Fantasy T&F ------------------------------------------------------------ @ o Dan Kaplan - [EMAIL PROTECTED] <|\/ <^- ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) _/ \ \/\ (503)370-9969 phone/fax / / __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com
