His team isn't as much use to him in the mountains either. Put the top guys on each team in the same position and he would come out ahead. As I've said before, read the book and all the SI stuff you can on him and watch the tour and you would learn it isn't just yankee hype. He has traded places in the odd tour and the coaches keep having to slow him down because he is too hard on the designated number one-can't keep up. He also can't train with his team every day. Too hard on them. And, gh, we have heard your quotes on aging before. One other thing I was wondering about from the people who voted for the AP AOY. gh says this: "Fact that it was a fourth win is as irrelevant as John Wayne winning the "lifetime body of work considerations" Oscar for Rooster Cogburn. (And Ed was right on with the "overcoming adversity" angle also.)" I have full and complete confidence that the T&F News AOYs are picked using what gh believes is the proper objective criteria but are there actual guidelines in place for those voting for the AP AOY? Some might think that streaks and adversity are perfectly legitimate things to consider. Are they specifically prohibited as considerations? And one last thing, Dan Wilson is absolutely right in his post. Anyone who is continuing to pursue excellence athletically can appreciate what goes into any and all other sports no matter what they are. Easy to pass judgment from the comfort of an easy chair. Regards, Martin
ghill wrote: > > From: "Kurt Bray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: "Kurt Bray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 23:07:17 +0000 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year > > Resent-From: ghill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Resent-To: "e. garry hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 09:52:57 -0800 > > > > And my prediction > > is that, barring injury, in 2003 Armstrong will become only the second ever > > to win five TDFs in a row. There is no one out there in his class.>> > > I don't know enough about cycling to know if this is a stupid question, but > perhaps one of the wheelie mavens can clarify: how much of Armstrong's Tour > success does he owe to his team? In other words, if he traded places with > whomever you think is the No. 2 rider, would he still be in a class alone, > or would we then see that all the protection he gets from a talented group > of self-sacrificing buddies plays a huge part? > > Obviously, his success in time-trial segments answers part of this question, > but just curious.
