Just to clarify. Carol's remarks were ignorant, not stupid. Now, it may be subject to debate whether her ignorance on that point is a matter of stupidity or just laziness (I often debate the same about some allegedly stupid politicians). But exactly what was gained by the subject header above?
I know it's fun, but please back off on blasting people with invectives, particularly in the subject headers. Over the last few years, T&F has lost a number of excellent, knowledgable track insiders who just got tired of seeing themselves slammed in public (I don't believe Carol is a list-member, but I could put together a list of the big-name posters who have informed me off-channel over the last years that they were signing off because they were tired of abusive posts). It's good to have a forum where the average Joe with a moderate racing or coaching career (eg, myself) , or even just any devout T&F fan, can voice his or her opinion. Unfortunately, that victory is sort of pyhrric if the tone is so strident or personal that it drives from the list a lot fo the people we'd like to be talking to with our posts, or hearing the experiences and opinions of. Yes, there's a frustration in seeing someone being paid to do a job most of us would love to have, and seemingly phoning it in, but the world just works that way sometimes. And the louder and nastier criticism is, the more likely it is to be ignored (unless there's a lot of money accompanying it...) Thanks, Phil Ponebshek Occasional List Supervisor Robert Kiessling <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Track and Field List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: Sent by: Subject: t-and-f: Stupid Carol Lewis Remarks owner-t-and-f@lists. uoregon.edu 02/08/03 02:55 PM Please respond to Robert Kiessling Heard on the Millrose TV Broadcast during the Men's 4 x 400 - " Most of these runners have trouble with the banked turns since they run at the Armory Track which is flat." Hey Carol, the Armory Track is Banked! Since the Nationals were there last year. you might have noticed that! Bob Kiessling New Jersey High School Coach