I think. ...... You hope !!!!!
-Robert-
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Am 09.01.2011 11:37, schrieb Robert Elsenaar:
Ok, great. If that is the ultimate solution for all cycletracks.
Can you help me with the remaining problems?
[...]
Do I have to tell OSM that bicyles are not welcome on the highway=* when
there is a highway=cycleway next to it?
If bicycles are legally forbidden on the highway, tag the highway with
bicycle=no (legal access tag).
If not, don't care about it.
Routing engines should prefer cycleways for cyclists over highways, I think.
regards
Peter
-Robert-
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: j...@jfeldredge.com
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Subject: [SPAM]: Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways
So, no standalone cycleway will ever be mapped with the cycleway=track
tag, and no cycleway that is actually shown on a map will have the tag
either? The tag is never to actually be used on a cycleway, only on a
motor-vehicle road to indicate that a cycleway exists somewhere nearby,
but isn't directly shown on the map? Does this mean that, should someone
else add the cycleway to the map at a later time, the cycleway=track tag
should be removed from the motor-vehicle road?
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Subject :Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways
From :mailto:slh...@gmail.com
Date :Sat Jan 08 21:46:00 America/Chicago 2011
On 9 January 2011 07:43, Robert Elsenaar <rob...@elsenaar.info> wrote:
Nathan,
I do not understand you at all.
We agree about cycleway=lane: No seperation but defenitely a special
place
for bicycles.
You stated in your last replay, and correct me if a I'm wrong.
highway cycleway should be mapped if there is any kind of seperation,
even
when it is only a seperatly a strip of grass.
Now my disunderstanding, and please help me out:
When do you tag a cyclestrip as cycleway=track?
When it's there, and it could be mapped as a separate track, but you
haven't done so (yet), then you map the road with cycleway=track. If
it has been mapped separately, then you wouldn't, as it's not needed.
Stephen
-Robert-
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Nathan Edgars II
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 8:11 PM
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Subject: [SPAM]: Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Robert Elsenaar <rob...@elsenaar.info>
wrote:
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Nathan Edgars II
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 7:54 PM
To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
Subject: Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways
Huh? If there's separation between the cycleway and roadway, it's a
second way. If not, it's a cycle lane rather than a cycle track.
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Please define seperation?
A continuous physical barrier so that one cannot cross at will between
the cycleway and roadway. This may be a Jersey barrier or even a line
of raised pavement markers but is normally a strip of grass or hard
surface. For example in
http://www.truewheelers.org/cases/vassarst/index.htm the separation is
curbed areas with plants. (There is however no separation here between
the cycleway and footway, so those should probably be combined as a
single path with oneway:bicycle=yes.)
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