On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Richard Mann < richard.mann.westoxf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There's various systems that use railway=tram_stop. You tag what you > like, but there's no guarantee anyone will pick up your data if you > use something different. I don't know if that matters. > You mean to say that railway=tram_stop is the convention - if that's the case then I'm happy to adhere to that. > > Some tram/light_rail systems run exclusively on-street, others use a > bit of track, some are mostly on track (and probably have proper > signalling). The distinctions are more technical than real. All of > them cater for local journeys and are largely separate from whatever > heavy rail system there is. > The distinction between tram and light rail that I pointed out in my reply to Nathan is a real one, although there are definitely hybrid systems (Amsterdam, Karlsruhe, Rotterdam/The Hague are examples I know of). > > The distinctions feel to me to be techy things that belong in > sub-tags. If there are very fuzzy boundaries, it doesn't make sense to > have too many categories. > I do agree there. Let's not overcomplicate things. By the context (the tracks are tagged railway=light_rail) any tool could figure out that the stops are light rail stops anyway. Martijn On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Martijn van Exel <m...@rtijn.org> wrote: > > Richard, > > Why 'should' they be a tram stop? Is that a convention I don't know > about? I > > can't derive it from the descriptions in the wiki. > > The local situation here in Salt Lake is actually a little more > complicated. > > TRAX is definitely a light rail system (With Siemens SD-100 and Avanto > sets) > > but for significant stretches runs on former heavy rail trackbeds that > the > > transit authority owned or bought the rights of way of. As far as I can > tell > > the original heavy rail tracks are used, at least on some stretches. Of > > course new signaling and overhead wires were installed. > > Martijn > > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:38 AM, Richard Mann > > <richard.mann.westoxf...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Trams and street-running light rail should have railway=tram_stop. Put > >> in a sub-tag if you want to distinguish different types. > >> > >> If your light-rail system runs onto heavy rail (eg famously in > >> Karlsruhe), and shares stations with heavy rail passenger services, > >> then use railway=station on the clearly heavy rail sections. > >> > >> I'd avoid using railway=light_rail in marginal cases - I think some > >> people use it for S-bahn services (loco-hauled double-deck carriages; > >> definitely not lightweight!), and the tagging isn't entirely helpful > >> > >> Richard > >> > >> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Steve Bennett <stevag...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Martijn van Exel <m...@rtijn.org> > wrote: > >> >> A light rail stop, would that be a railway=tram_stop or a > >> >> railway=station? > >> > > >> > Sounds like a third option is required. Here (Melbourne, Australia) > >> > tram stops vary from just a sign on a telephone pole to "super stops" > >> > (raised platforms, safety barriers and ticket machines) to former > >> > train stations that now only serve light rails. The first are clearly > >> > "railway=tram_stop", the last are really "railway=station" (but it > >> > would be misleading to render them exactly the same as a real train > >> > station), but the super stops are really something else, some subclass > >> > of tram_stop maybe. > >> > > >> > Steve > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Tagging mailing list > >> > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > >> > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Tagging mailing list > >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org > >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > > > > > > -- > > martijn van exel > > schaaltreinen.nl > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tagging mailing list > > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- martijn van exel schaaltreinen.nl
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